Milk production question

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  1. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    Hi yall.. i have a 2 1/2 yr old doe nubian/sanaan X.. she had her first babies in November.. i statted milming her aftsr about 2 weeks a d she only have 1/2 quart but i was thankful.. now her kids are 8 weeks and just weaned.. her production has dropped in half some days less.. she eats hay ..mineral.. sweer feed eigh alfalfa pellets.. up to date on deworming.. so im wondering why the huge drop in production also she is not currently in heat either. When i first started shed fill her bag.. now she barely does.. shes never full like before i milk ever 12 hrs ..
     
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  2. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    Sorry for the typos guys my phone makes me struggle lol
     

  3. Caileigh Jane Smith

    Caileigh Jane Smith Well-Known Member

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    Dec 1, 2019
    Missouri, USA
    Can you post the amounts of the feed and hay she's getting? Maybe also post a picture of your doe. That seems like an awfully small amount of milk for a Nubian-Saanen cross to give. Is she crossed with any other breed?
     
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  4. Caileigh Jane Smith

    Caileigh Jane Smith Well-Known Member

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    Also, what kind of hay are you feeding?
     
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  5. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki

    Are the kids away away from her so no sneaking sips? Is she a self nurser? Try taping her teats and see. How much feed are you giving her and how many times a day. Feed makes milks.
     
  6. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    I feed coastal and alfalfa but its hard to get fresh alfalfa in my area
     
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  7. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    Her kids went to their new home so thats not it.. bug there was one day whwrd i suspected self nursing b/c her udder was half empty n her teat looked curved like shed been pulling on it but i havent actually seen her do it yet
     
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  8. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    I feed her a mixture of alfalfa pellets n sweet feed twice a day on the rack she eats about 2 and a half pounds each time but she does seem to be getting full quicker on the alfalfa pellets
     
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  9. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    Not that i know of this evening ill get pics on the rack she doesnt have as big as an udder as her sister but shes not even filling it up
     
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  10. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    Got pics of her and sister. Ok ao cricket the one in question ia the chamoise colored.. her sister tilly is the white doe.. she makes a quart a d a half on her own. Cricket used to give half a quart full but now its like 1/2 cup
     

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  11. MadHouse

    MadHouse Well-Known Member

    Could it be that her sister is dinking from her?
    I second the teat tape trial. It will tell you pretty quickly if someone is trying to rip it off.
    After milking her, you can use a band aid first (so the opening doesn’t get sticky stuff on it), then paper tape around the ends of the band aid.
     
  12. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    Both a Nubian and Saanen are great milk producers. Its a nice cross of breeds.. A quart and half seems low for even a low day. Of course genetics can play a role to lower productivity..but a few things you may look into..along with ruling out the self nursing/or sister stealing milk now..(since her productivity has dropped) are
    Copper. If they are low on copper..milk productivity will be down.
    Hydration. If they are not drinking enough water, which is common when cold..product will drop.
    Over all mineral imbalance can affect things as well.
    Parasite burden..both internal and external. A fecal and good combing to check for lice would be good idea.
    Of course getting plenty of groceries...but neither look like they are suffering there ;).
     
  13. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    You know i watch them alot but it could be someone else is drinking from her also.. i will use some tefla pads and cover her teats and give that a shot n see what happens.. thank you all for the advice!! Im not at all new to goats but this is my first time doing a anything dairy so tips always welcome thanks yall!!!
     
  14. goatblessings

    goatblessings Fair-Haven Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2015
    Southwest Ohio
    I would test tape her to begin with to see if someone is nursing. Also, rule of thumb to start is one pound of feed per 2# output. Make sure total calcium is high enough
     
  15. TexasGoatMan

    TexasGoatMan Well-Known Member

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    Dekalb, Texas
    You didn’t say how big your does are. I am curious what they weigh. A good milk goat and Saannan and Nubians are tops, should produce around a gallon of milk daily or close to that if they are healthy and getting plenty of good foods. Do you know the breeding of your does? What their dam produces?
     
  16. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    Unfortunately i dont know that about the parents
    I do not unfortunately.. crickets is around
    80 pounds or so tilly her sister is more like 90-105 also tilly produces a lot more than her im wondering if next time i need to just bottle feed the kids she was doing great in the beginning i did the practice of waiting 2 weeks.. pullin babies off at night then milking once daily. The shortage seemed to start when I weaned her kids at 8 weeks.
     
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  17. Hounddog23

    Hounddog23 Member

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    Jan 13, 2021
    Cleveland, Tx
    Im wondering also if i should just let her dry up and take a break. I dont plan on breeding her until the fall. I have a ND who will be in milk around may who would fill the gap.
     
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  18. Caileigh Jane Smith

    Caileigh Jane Smith Well-Known Member

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    80 lbs. seems very, very small for a 2 1/2 year old doe. I've got Nubians, and my smallest doe is still a bit over 100 lbs. I'm not familiar with Saanens, but I'd be tempted to wonder if there is some sort of an issue going on, such as internal parasites, not absorbing nutrition properly, or some kind of a mineral imbalance.
     
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  19. Caileigh Jane Smith

    Caileigh Jane Smith Well-Known Member

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