We dont have any idea of the conception date because we had buck and does together at that point when we first got started. Her udder has come in nicely, very tight. My husband thinks it should be bigger, but we dont really know. When I checked her yesterday, it was very tight. This is her second freshioning that we know of. Could be more as we are the third owners. Has been pawing at the ground for about a week or so. Biting at her sides as well. Standing and laying and back up again every 5 seconds. Checked for ligaments and found none. Extremely mushy. Can touch finger to finger around the head of the tail. That was yesterday. Also, she started biting and pulling on her teats yesterday as well. Has had some discharge, but we have not seen the plug out yet. She seems to open up a bit, I guess you would say dialate, and then close back up the next time you look. We thought we saw what would be the start of the plug this morning, but she closed back up. Seems to be very uncomfortable. But not in distress. Any thoughts on how much longer and/or should be worried that the kid/kids are to big and not able to enter the birth canal? This is Sophia This pic shows the "dialation" that I was talking about. It has expanded even more than that at times. Rear view Rear and udder Udder Laying down.