Mini Nubian conformation questions

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  1. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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    Hey everyone. I have two young twin does (Mini Nubians) that I’d love for a more experienced goat keeper to look at. I need some conformation-related advice.

    I DEFINITELY have a favorite and am leaning towards keeping and breeding her, but my favoritism is based mostly on personality and she-just-has-a-face-that-I-really-like. Lol. So I’d love for you guys to compare them just based on their conformation and tell me what you think.

    I will put pictures of one in one comment and pictures of the other in another comment (I’m not sure how to separate them if I try to add them here). I know very little about what makes a sturdy, healthy goat, so any advice or information is welcome!
     
  2. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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    Here are some pictures of Mika.
     

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  3. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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    And here are photos of Suki. I don’t think I’m very good at taking pictures of goats. Sorry. Lol. They don’t stand still very much.
     

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  4. Goatzrule

    Goatzrule Well-Known Member

    Feb 7, 2013
    New England
    Can you retake pictures of both so the are on level ground and the photo is level with their height. Be careful of shadows
     
  5. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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    I will see what I can do! I may need so have someone hold them still. Lol
     
  6. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki
    Get front, side, nose and from behind views if you can.

    Also. Are they always that rusty color? They may need some copper.
     
  7. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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    They have been this color since they were born. Their dad was solid black and their mom is brown, so I think it’s just how they look - I did give all my goats copper boluses in February too.
     
  8. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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    Better pictures of the first doe. 48324E03-7EF5-4855-9CF1-815E1B8C8EC1.jpeg 571A1487-63C1-49AF-B33C-5E2FEE11D22F.jpeg A22B4DE9-F33D-4CBA-B2AB-59FE2ED486B9.jpeg 1A415A1D-CF7F-48C8-AE57-9DDF6C0B6589.jpeg A0B350B1-5721-4797-8D14-B3945FD9080A.jpeg
     
  9. Feira426

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    F61A15CA-6D35-4859-9085-9D1836E24394.jpeg B328B10D-CECD-4FA2-B4E4-EAB8161B918A.jpeg DA42DC2A-BB83-477C-9D8C-CFBBC9320AD5.jpeg 9B8B7C39-BEAD-4FBE-964D-751B67DA15D4.jpeg Better pics of the second. Thanks for telling me how to get better pics for conformation! I’m pretty new to goats still and I’ve never done this before.
     
  10. Goatzrule

    Goatzrule Well-Known Member

    Feb 7, 2013
    New England
    Those are great pictures. I will work on getting you a response tonight or tomorrow.
     
  11. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

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  12. Feira426

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    Oh, yay! She's my favorite - and has been since she was like half a day old, lol! Such a sweetheart and so curious and playful, right from the beginning. What do you think I should look for in a buck for her? I don't know much about what makes a sturdy healthy goat. Is there a good website you can recommend I read for conformation stuff?
     
  13. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki
    I put up a bunch of pics i got from fb on conformation in this post.

    https://www.thegoatspot.net/threads/trying-to-learn-more-about-conformation.212161/#post-2371213
     
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  14. lada823

    lada823 Active Member

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    I'm no expert at conformation. But, I am a rump girl. Lol. Both of those goats have steep rumps so if it were me and I definitely wanted to keep one, I would be looking for a buck that is really super level. Make sure you look back at his dam, sire, and granddams if possible. The other thing I always look at is udder attachments when I'm looking for a buck.
     
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  15. Goatzrule

    Goatzrule Well-Known Member

    Feb 7, 2013
    New England
    The First
    Pros:
    Correctness on feet and legs
    Depth in barrel
    Depth of chest/brisket
    Width of rump
    Tightness of shoulders

    Cons
    Steepness in rump
    Narrow bodied
    Her back end being higher than her front could be do to her still growing into herself

    Shes a nice doe with a lot of potential
     
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  16. Goatzrule

    Goatzrule Well-Known Member

    Feb 7, 2013
    New England
    The second
    Pros
    Width of chest
    Smoothness of blending from withers to hips
    Correctness on feet and legs
    Depth of barrel and chest floor
    Width of rump

    Cons
    Steepness of rump
    Narrow in escutcheon
    I would like to see more length of body

    Overall I do agree she is the better doe. I would like to see you breed either to a wider more correct buck
     
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  17. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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  18. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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    Wonderful! I appreciate this so much. So I should look for a buck with a not-steep rump and maybe taller in the front? I will have to look up what an escutcheon is, heh.
     
  19. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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    Great! Thank you so much for the advice. Thanks again to everyone else too. I really appreciate you guys so much. I’m learning tons here. This forum is wonderful.
     
  20. Feira426

    Feira426 Active Member

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    What do you guys think about this buckling to improve that second doe?

    The third picture is his sire.

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