I have kinders, and honestly I wish I didn't, because they are decreasing in popularity. My friend and I visited the farm that first started the kinder breed a couple weeks ago, and even though I was happy with what I saw, neat place but I just want something that will sell better, not to mention bigger teat size for milking. They just are not as popular as before. Given your choices I would choose mini Nubians, they are a little more popular.