Mites? Zinc? and Anemia

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WesBaum

Discussion Starter · Jan 15, 2022

Alrighty, I have a lot to talk about so bear with me. One of my goats is suffering from anemia. She has had a fecal and it showed a little of worms, not barber pole worms, but not a lot. We went ahead and put her on a mild dewormer. We gave her .3cc of red cell, she is a 10 pound, 8 week old, Nigerian dwarf goat doeling. I also noticed today that her skin is very flaky. Could this be mites that is causing her anemia? I’ll show photos below. I also have this skin and coat mannapro supplement: https://www.mannapro.com/goat-sheep/supplements/goat-skin-coat-supplement. I haven’t given any to them yet. Do y’all recommend this? It has zinc. She is on mannapro milk replacer, 24 ounces a day, Lucas goat feed, BOSS, chaffhaye, tiften grass hay. She has kelp and sweetlix goat meat maker minerals free choice. Any advice? I’ll also show photos of her famacha…

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ksalvagno

· #2 · Jan 15, 2022

It could be mites or lice. At this point what are all her symptoms?

WesBaum

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 15, 2022

ksalvagno said:
It could be mites or lice. At this point what are all her symptoms?

She sure is scratching and rubbing a lot. She started chewing at the hair near her hoof if that is anything. I don’t know if it her scratching is normal, though. Then there is her famacha score which is low. Besides this, she seems fine. She moves around normal and is a pig when it is feeding time. Just to add, she doesn’t suckle the bottle like my other ones do. The other ones will down one it 8 seconds while it will take her close to a minute or two, no idea if that is important either.

TripleShareNubians

· #4 · Jan 16, 2022

Well if it is mites or lice a little bit of eprinex will take care of that.

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WesBaum

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 16, 2022

TripleShareNubians said:
Well if it is mites or lice a little bit of eprinex will take care of that.

What is Eprinex? How do you use it?

TripleShareNubians

· #6 · Jan 16, 2022

WesBaum said:
What is Eprinex? How do you use it?

If you don't have any someone might have a better suggestion since it has gotten quite expensive. For lice, but not mites you can use a permethrin pour on like Gordon's. I use it every month my vet told me to put it in a dish soap bottle and you go from the top of the head to the tail and back on an adult and one way only on a kid. When I'm treating mites with eprinex I usually get a little 3 cc syringe and put it in the areas it needs to be where I'm seeing signs of itching or the back of the legs, the udder Arch area if a lady has it etc. My bed is also giving me I think it was called startup in the past it's another cattlemen but I'm only ever used it when she premixed it and he had to be careful on weight.
Maybe someone knows something that's not as expensive though but I've had mine for years because I don't have as much trouble with mites but when I get it this stuff is highly effective.

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TripleShareNubians

· #7 · Jan 16, 2022

It makes me want to search the threads and see if anybody has another idea. With the way things are going may not always be able to get some of this stuff

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ksalvagno

· #8 · Jan 16, 2022

It does sound like mites.

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WesBaum

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 16, 2022

ksalvagno said:
It does sound like mites.

So if I can’t get Eprinex, what do you recommend for mites if Permethrin doesn’t treat them?

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Nigerian dwarf goat

· #10 · Jan 16, 2022

seems like it could me mites, although i had a litter of triplets one year who had just terrible dandruff, yet they weren't anemic. A bath with medicated shampoo and a zinc pill for humans cut into 1/3 fixed them up.
I've never dealt with an anemic baby this young before, so i may be wrong, but keep giving red cell 1-2 times a week, since she does still have some color and isn't completely white. She needs to gain a bit of color.

for the skin and coat supplement, i really just recommend about 1/3 zinc pill for her. If it doesn't improve after about a month give a little more. Its cheaper and easier

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ksalvagno

· #11 · Jan 16, 2022

Ivomec injectable works. For natural treatment I believe tea tree oil works, you would mix a few drops in carrier oil. If they are inside, you could give a bath.

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WesBaum

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jan 16, 2022

Nigerian dwarf goat said:
seems like it could me mites, although i had a litter of triplets one year who had just terrible dandruff, yet they weren't anemic. A bath with medicated shampoo and a zinc pill for humans cut into 1/3 fixed them up.
I've never dealt with an anemic baby this young before, so i may be wrong, but keep giving red cell 1-2 times a week, since she does still have some color and isn't completely white. She needs to gain a bit of color.

for the skin and coat supplement, i really just recommend about 1/3 zinc pill for her. If it doesn't improve after about a month give a little more. Its cheaper and easier

Ok, so should I do both the zinc and something for the mites. Also, do you think I should jump right into a chemical treatment or try more natural first? Is there anyway to confirm that they have mites or lice? Would any of this be bad to do while she is on worm medication? Also, should I be giving probiotics while she is on worm medication? Thanks!

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ksalvagno

· #13 · Jan 16, 2022

A vet can do a skin scraping. I'd be very careful with zinc since she is so young. I'd try natural first. If you could keep her inside while she dries from a bath, a bath with a sulfur shampoo would be good.

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WesBaum

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 16, 2022 (Edited)

ksalvagno said:
A vet can do a skin scraping. I'd be very careful with zinc since she is so young. I'd try natural first. If you could keep her inside while she dries from a bath, a bath with a sulfur shampoo would be good.

Awesome! How often should I do this and should this be the only thing I do? Where can I get sulfur shampoo, and is there a certain one I'm looking for? I also have diatomaceous earth garden grade if that can be used for anything. Also are do you think continuing with the red cell is a good idea? If so, how long and what dosages for her at 11 pounds?

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ksalvagno

· #15 · Jan 16, 2022

You would just do the skin scraping once. Years ago I had gotten the sulfur shampoo from my vet. I don't use diatomaceous earth so I don't know.

Red cell is 6cc per 100 lbs for 5 days then once a week until better.

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Nubian-Shepherdess

· #16 · Jan 16, 2022

I'm thinking one of my does may have mites too. I do deep bedding in the winter so they are probably in there too. Instead of scooping out all that, could I use a powder like sulfur powder do smother them in their bed of leaves?

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ksalvagno

· #17 · Jan 16, 2022

You would use something like Sevin Dust but unfortunately you really need to totally clean out the sleeping area.

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WesBaum

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jan 16, 2022

ksalvagno said:
You would use something like Sevin Dust but unfortunately you really need to totally clean out the sleeping area.

Today, I got tea tree medicated shampoo for them and I’m going to give all of them a bath. I also got python dust. Can I use this and how?

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ksalvagno

· #19 · Jan 16, 2022

Python dust you would use on the ground. Clean the area thoroughly, put the python dust down, then put shavings and straw on top.

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WesBaum

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jan 16, 2022

ksalvagno said:
Python dust you would use on the ground. Clean the area thoroughly, put the python dust down, then put shavings and straw on top.

Oh so should I put it on them?

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