Well, last night we new she was going to kid because of the discharge. So every two hours I was up and checking on her. She just kept looking at me like "NOW WHAT!!!!!!!). So I put the baby monitor down real close so I could hear something. It is really hard when you have 6 babies already in the barn and they are all talking to each other. well i was up at 5:00, to feed the animals and take care of that other orphan baby. I have been holding a mom and letting her nurse, and I have one that got amniotic fluid in her eye so I have been holding tea bags to the eye, and putting Neosporin in it, plus feed the horses and so on. Well Monica was doing the moaning and grunting thing. So I got all my stuff and sat out with her. That was about 5:30. My daughter came out to see what was going on, so together we sat and waited. Monica is a first timer and she is really big, so I was a little worried. Well, at 7:00 I called to work and told them I would be late because of the kidding. Well I didn't think it was going to take so long. At 11:15 and 10 seconds she had a Monster of a baby, and at 11:15 and 40 seconds out came another one. If we had not been there I am sure I would of lost them both. She had them so fast that she never had time to clean them up or get the nose and all clean, so we had to help her. I have not gotten the weight on them yet, but they were 13-1/2 and 14 inches long from the base of the neck to the tail head. I has to grab them by their back feet and swing them to help get the fluid out, and I had to stand up so they did not hit their heads. Now I do not know about other goats, but for a Cashmere that is REALLY long. I really wish they were not that long because I breed for the long back goats, and these were two bucks, and I am not keeping any boys. I am so bummed. I was really hoping for a girl because I really like the father of these guys and they are going to be BEAUTIFUL boys, and GREAT fiber. :sigh: But a good note. I was able to get her to adopt the little doe that her mother rejected.