My Hermaphrodite Male is Horny and won't calm down

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Camie’s Grandma, Oct 20, 2020.

  1. Camie’s Grandma

    Camie’s Grandma New Member

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    Feb 27, 2019
    California
    My hermaphrodite male is horny and chasing our nanny (who is already bred) and any person who comes near enough gets peed on. He keeps rubbing on her side and has rubbed her hair off in one spot. Not sure what to do to give her some relief or calm him down. Any ideas?
     
  2. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    Are there any other does she can be with? You may need to separate them, so the doe doesn’t get stressed.
     
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  3. Camie’s Grandma

    Camie’s Grandma New Member

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    Feb 27, 2019
    California
    When we try to separate them (we only have 3 right now, a pregnant doe, a whether and a billy) the billy will break the fence to get to her. We can distract him with leaves and forage, and he'll stop for awhile, but then he gets started again. He will even pee on any person that catches his fancy (meaning, everyone). Can't count the number of times we've been peed on. If he come up and starts rubbing on us, you can bet he's also peeing on us. When he calms down, he's a real sweetie, he is just super horny right now.
     
  4. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    I'm confused about the hermaphrodite part.
     
  5. Tanya

    Tanya Well-Known Member

    Is that a duel sex goat?
     
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  6. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    He will not leave her alone. He needs to be separated from her. The stress can lead to miscarriage. When she kids..this can be an issue as well.
    Can you pen him where he can not see the doe?
    How special is he? Is rehoming an option?
     
  7. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    He needs to be rehomed or some other option, I hate to say.

    Stress will cause her to abort.
     
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  8. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    Maybe you could put up a strand of electric to keep him from wrecking his pen fence.
     
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  9. Camie’s Grandma

    Camie’s Grandma New Member

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    Feb 27, 2019
    California
    A hermaphrodite has both male and female organs. My billy is a complete male, but has an udder and possibly ovaries but no vulva or birth canal, don't know if he has a womb. He has fathered twins and triplets every season and is gentle and loving with the kids. I've never had him act like this. He usually is in rut for a few weeks and then it is over for the year. This has been off and on for about 2 weeks so far and lasts for about 4 hours a day. When he's through being horny, he'll lay next to her and 'cuddle' and be very affectionate.(he's really weird)
     
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  10. Tanya

    Tanya Well-Known Member

    Wow. That must be interesting to have. I am sure he is in touch with his feminine side.
     
  11. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    I know what a hermaphrodite is. Just confusing that you were calling him a billy and using him for stud. If he is over 3, not surprised with his behavior.
     
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  12. AndersonRanch

    AndersonRanch Well-Known Member

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    Oct 17, 2020
    California
    It’s not uncommon for a buck, usually in dairy bucks, to have a udder and be 100% male. Usually this means he has some awesome milking lines.
    But I second the separation and the hot fence. That usually teaches them to behave. If that is not a option, do you have a horse/stock trailer? I had a terrible buck that learned how to short out the hot fence and get out and cause trouble. And he got moved to the trailer until I sold him.......not saying you should sell him (although that is defiantly a option). But it should keep him contained until hopefully he’s done being in rut and you can try his pen again
     
  13. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    All bucks do have teats. ;)
     
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  14. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    Yes..my saanen buck came into milk ever rut season. His daughters were very milky

    I agree that he's at a age of change. Meaning many bucks get a little more persistent or aggressive after 4. He definitely needs to move to a different oen so your doe can relax
     
  15. NDinKY

    NDinKY Well-Known Member

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    Aug 3, 2019
    Kentucky
    If he’s a true hermaphrodite then I wouldn’t be breeding him as you absolutely wouldn’t want to pass that on. However, if he is from great milking lines and just gets an udder that is totally different. Either way, I’d separate from your does.
     
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  16. Camie’s Grandma

    Camie’s Grandma New Member

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    Feb 27, 2019
    California
    all his female offspring give amazing milk and the bucks are usually castrated and are very calm. we are going to try separating him again. hopefully it will work this time without him breaking the fence again.
     
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  17. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    Most hermaphrodite have both sex organs visual. So some sort of vulva and penis. Somtimes penis is just a ball thing on the vulva area. We had one born here with vulva under her/him..penis was internal but close to the surface to see. No testicle at all. Usually they act male..are stocky. There are so many varieties to the way they are set up. I agree if he is a true hermaphrodite..I would not breed him..but from what I understand..I think he is just very dairy
     
  18. GF3 Boer Goats

    GF3 Boer Goats Active Member

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    Sep 25, 2017
    Hermaphrodites cannot breed, he is just a buck with an udder. You need to separate otherwise you will risk the doe to abort her kids.
     
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