My new project *sad update*

Discussion in 'Goat Frenzy' started by TheMixedBag, Mar 17, 2011.

  1. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    I had to be the sucker...the breeder I got Jenny from had a problem kid who had gotten stuck in the birth canal too long with the umbilical cord torn, so she's a little over a week old, and still hasn't stood. She's partially braindead, but she's been improving a little tiny bit each day so they couldn't bear to kill her, so we took her since they didn't have the time needed to devote to getting her better.

    She is a purebred Saanen, a bit inbred (her dam was a Huey-bred daughter bred back to Huey, so he's both her sire and her grandsire) and should be a heavy milker if she ever gets better.

    Right now I'm letting her eat when she wants to, since Jenny's producing more than enough to feed both her and her kids. I've got her front legs braced and wrapped, since she can't even straighten them out completely. Any advice on taking care of a goat like this would be appreciated, I get to keep her if she lives at all.

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  2. liz

    liz Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    She's eating and looks alert, very good signs, I would work with her daily, getting her to stand and working her legs for her...does she hold her head up?
     

  3. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    Her head is still a bit wobbly, but she can hold her head up pretty well.
     
  4. liz

    liz Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    Thats wonderful! If she can do that then I'm betting that with some physical therapy, she'll be standing and even walking in no time. Best of Luck to you !
     
  5. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    Awww....how nice of you to take her in. I bet she'll be up and hopping around in no time with a little TLC. :D
     
  6. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    With the braces on, she's slowly working on attempting to get up herself. If I push her up, she can stand for a few seconds before falling back down.

    I think right now, she'll survive easily enough, I'm just worried about how much brain damage there will be when she gets older.
     
  7. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    Awwww she is precious! Thoughts and prayers going her way that she will find those legs, and lead a happy, healthy life.
     
  8. Devin

    Devin New Member

    Feb 6, 2011
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    Poor thing! I have no advice except to do physical therapy with her several times a day. I wish you the best!
     
  9. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    We're standing her 4-5 times a day, massaging the leg above the knee, keeping her in different positions throughout the day. I put one of Jenny's kids in with her to keep her company, she seems more relaxed with him.

    She made it through the night fine, has been fed about 5 oz twice today. It does seem like she's partially blind and deaf, but she recognizes us and will try to get up when we start petting her or moving her around. She can stand with minimal support for a few seconds, and sit up for almost 20 if we help her up.

    I have a feeling she was a bit premature, as there's literally no muscle definition and even her coat is gobs thinner than Jenny's kids.

    She did get a shot of BoSe a few days after she was born, I'll be calling the vet Monday to see what else she suggest.
     
  10. Paige

    Paige Senior Member

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    Oct 14, 2010
    ohio
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    I don't know if this helps much but its seems like lots of stimulation and rubbing would help her with sensory integration. Lots of prayer going to you and the baby. :pray:
     
  11. Thanatos

    Thanatos New Member

    937
    Mar 16, 2009
    Lake Ariel, Pa
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    What ever brain damage there is should be all that there will be. It wont get worse unless there is additional issues. Its cool that you are trying so hard for her too. Good Luck.
     
  12. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    I agree it shouldnt get worse unless somethign else is wrong with her besides lack of oxygen from the birth.

    I would remove the braces at times to allow her natural movement and so you can massage her lower legs.

    Some Nutri Drench (or PowerPunch/goataid) would also be somethign I would give her right now and like every other day (dont want to give it to often or it can make her stools runny.

    Hows her peeing and pooing?

    Goats that are blind can do very well especially if they have a buddy they can hang with. Never experienced a deaf goat though but beings she recognizes you that means she either isnt fully deaf or fully blind so thats very encouraging.

    Hope she does continue to improve on the standing part
     
  13. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    I honestly haven't seen her do much of either, which is a worry, but she's still got a voracious appetite, and her belly isn't swelling any, so I really don't know what's going on.

    She also seems to have a bit of fluid in her lungs, she'll get a bit of a cough here and there, though it could just be a bit of milk slipping back where it shouldn't be going. For the most part, she seems to have relaxed greatly being around here, and is taking pretty well to working on standing. She started shivering late this afternoon (it dropped down into mid-50's and our house ain't exactly well insulated), but soon as I wrapped her up, she settled right in and stopped shivering soon. I'm hoping with a few more days she'll put some weight back on her, soon as she does she should be up and moving around on her own. As it is she tries awfully hard by herself, but just doesn't have the strength to actually do it.

    I have noticed when we're standing her up she holds her head down and won't budge it. Just trying to balance, or what?
     
  14. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    if she is deaf it might make her balance off and being weak on top of it doesnt help her any.

    As to not pooping or peeing I would be worried abotu her getting constipated. Try giving her a little (like 1/2cc) of Karo to help things along. If she doesnt poop then try giving her a warm water edema. Expect teh poo to be soft if you do either.
     
  15. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    I agree it shouldnt get worse unless somethign else is wrong with her besides lack of oxygen from the birth.

    I would remove the braces at times to allow her natural movement and so you can massage her lower legs.

    Some Nutri Drench (or PowerPunch/goataid) would also be somethign I would give her right now and like every other day (dont want to give it to often or it can make her stools runny.

    Hows her peeing and pooing?

    Goats that are blind can do very well especially if they have a buddy they can hang with. Never experienced a deaf goat though but beings she recognizes you that means she either isnt fully deaf or fully blind so thats very encouraging.

    Hope she does continue to improve on the standing part[/quote:1tq2q9vz] I agree.... :hi5:



    I have to commend you ...for taking in the precious little baby....may God bless you and her...so she gets better each day and can live her life to the fullest.... :hug: :pray:

    I would also maybe straighten and bend her legs...work them as well..... Is there a hanging contraption... you can make....like a towel and cut holes in it .. for her legs...and hang her up...sort a speak .... for a little while at a time.. when you are able to watch her...to allow her... to have her feet on the ground...with room for her to try to stand...with her legs a little bent....but suspend ...so she can try to stand on her feet....Just an idea..it may stimulate her enough... to try to work her legs.... hope it makes since ...the way I described it... :wink:

    I would give her Nutradrench for a while 1 x a day...to help her get stronger... :hug:
     
  16. Haviris

    Haviris Member

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    Oct 7, 2007
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    I bet she'll do just fine, and many things may get better as she gets stronger. The smallest of my youngest triplets was born breech and very weak, I wasn't sure she would make it for her first week. She could stand on her second day, but it took her about a week before she could walk, she was very top heavy and would fall on her head after standing for a few minutes, she'd have good days, then suddenly crash and go down hill and I'd be sure I was going to lose her, then she'd slowly improve. Once she did start walking, I thought she was possibly blind, she knew it was feeding time, but would run to 'into' any solid object and start searching for a teat. Now at alittle over two weeks, she's still a runt compared to her sisters, but she jumps and plays, and hops around like any other kid, and doesn't have trouble finding me at dinner time.
     
  17. Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    [​IMG] Awwww.......Hang in there.....I hope she pulls through for you.
     
  18. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    Re: My new project (good lord help me!)

    We almost lost her this morning. I'm still shaking and I still don't know if she'll pull through.

    I think what happened is she's been inhaling milk when she's nursing, and this time she did it just that little bit too much. She started throwing her head side to side and back and forth, cried a little and looked like she started gasping. I flipped her upside down and massaged her ribs pretty hard, and she stopped gasping, but her heart rate's still low and her breathing's still very rapid. She won't lift her head and seems very traumatized. She's shaking a lot, and I'm almost tempted to take her to the vet just to end it now.
     
  19. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    Re: My new project *emergency*

    Awe I'm sorry. If she aspirated milk she may develop aspirated pneumonia so what out for that. I would have antibiotics on hand just incase
     
  20. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    Re: My new project *emergency*

    I've got Pen-Aqueus on hand now, no other antibiotics.