ND buckling won't mount her

Discussion in 'Goat Management' started by FMW, Oct 21, 2020.

  1. FMW

    FMW Active Member

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    Jun 30, 2020
    midwest
    We have a 3 year old doe who is in standing heat and the 5 month old ND buckling won't mount her. He has been mounting everything around him the last three months and won't do the job now!

    He's also nursing on her. She doesn't let her own kids nurse on her and yet she just letting this buckling nurse when she's in standing heat.
     
  2. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    He may just be too immature at this age. Some bucks won’t get the job done until they’re older.

    Due to the nursing, separating them and trying to hand-breed might be the best bet to avoid the risk of mastitis.
     

  3. goatblessings

    goatblessings Fair-Haven Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2015
    Southwest Ohio
    I would separate for about a month or so - he sees her as his mama .... and milk is more important. Plus you probably want to dry her up anyway.
     
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  4. mariella

    mariella Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2017
    Prague Oklahoma
    Okay so something odd to try if you want her bred now, Put his nose up to her lady bits and then take her head and make her hit him on the side or the butt. If he blubbers a little at her do it again. try to be out there and any time he tries to nurse make her hit him again. Not hard just enough to push him off a little.
     
  5. FMW

    FMW Active Member

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    Jun 30, 2020
    midwest
    I wish I was more patient. Ugh! I decided to take the almost 2 year old Nubian buck and breed the brown doe. He bred her immediately, several times. I'm disappointed in myself because I really wanted mini Nubians, but I panicked earlier today. Another issue I'm up against is this Nubian buck may have been exposed to chlamydia last year and we wanted to keep him with the doe that is suspect to have it. She has a history of an early birth and then an early miscarriage. If she indeed has chlamydia, she may have transmitted it to the Nubian buck last year. We only treated the black doe with antibiotics. The vet thought the buck was fine. I do trust him, but I just don't know enough and don't want to make very expensive mistakes.

    Anyway, I hope this all turns out. Not what I was hoping for.
     
  6. FMW

    FMW Active Member

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    Jun 30, 2020
    midwest
    Mariella, I totally would have used your advice!!! I had already moved the animals at that point. :(
     
  7. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Get a vet involved.

    If you do indeed have Chlamydia in your herd, the kids within have no chance for survival.
    You will have to treat the goats for it.
    It is a big battle keeping it at bay for a few years. :(
     
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  8. FMW

    FMW Active Member

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    Jun 30, 2020
    midwest
    The vet is involved, and for whatever reason, he feels the buck is likely clean. We hadn't had the buck when the black doe lost her babies three weeks early. We then got him and he bred her and she then had an early miscarriage. I guess we shall see what happens in the spring. The vet agreed to have the black doe's placenta tested after she births in the spring, if she gets that far. Now I'm considering testing the brown doe's placenta, although, if she kids just fine in the spring, then is that a guarantee of no chlamydia?
     
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  9. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
  10. FMW

    FMW Active Member

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    Jun 30, 2020
    midwest
    Wow, I didn't realize there was that kind of certainty. We are suspecting chlamydia - we haven't had a chance to test to confirm.
     
  11. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    If no aborting issues are happening late term.
    The does are carrying babies full term and the placenta is tested and found to be clean, then yes, the buck who has bred that doe tested, should by rights be clean as well. ;)