Friday night JJ escaped from his pen around 11:00. This was well after "bedtime" for the goats, so when I let my dogs out, I didn't even think to check. I never have, its just a prt of our schedule- get home, put up the goats, let the dogs out, put the dogs up, feed to goats, rub them down, shut down the barn, go inside, and let the dogs back out to meet DH at the gate when he gets home. DH came home to Raymond and Griffin fighting over what was left of JJ. They not only killed him, they ate him. They left his head and legs. It was the most horrible thing I've ever seen, and my heart is still bleeding. Donnie can't stop getting teared up. Rosie is lost and confused, and in raging heat. We can't get rid of Ray. He has health issues, is older, and I couldn't trust anyone else to take him. Donnie is emphatic that we get rid of Griffin. I was at first too. But then today I realized that not only had I lost my first baby, I was now going to loose my Griffin. We are going to build a "goat only zone" surrounding the bar. No dogs allowed at all. Period. I've asked Allison, my goat Ob-Wan Kenobe, what she thinks. What about the rest of you? Would you keep the dogs, and just make the fencing uber secure? Or could you not get past it? Thanks.