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I took my 6 week old buckling to get his wattle cyst drained today. Here is the thread http://www.thegoatspot.net/forum/f186/wattle-cyst-152360/
Good news! It was just a clear fluid and the vet said it wasn't CL.
***BUT***
yesterday morning I found he had diarrhea. I suspected cocci when I saw the diarrhea... so had my husband stop at the feed store and pick up Di-Methox. All they had was the powder.
I have been using Molly's Herbals on my goats well over a year and I do keep on top of it, so I gave him extra Formula #1 as Molly suggests. It seemed to stop the diarrhea yesterday but he had it again this morning, so I dosed him again this morning before the vet appoint this morning so I thought I'd have him do a fecal too before treating with anything.
He said that Skippy had NO worms... however was loaded with cocci!
Soo... after the fecal, the vet proceeds to tell me how to administer the Di-Methox powder that I already have at home....Unfortunately, now, he has me soo confused!!!!
He started doing all these metric (I don't do metric!!!) figures... showed me how to figure it out.. glad my husband was there too!
First he had it to where I would measure the powder out in grams... Skippy weighed 27lbs, so that came to 1.35g of powder. So *finally* I had all the other 5 kids dosages figured out too, in grams. Then I find out that the little scale that I have only has one decimal point... so I could only get either 1.3g or 1.4g so not knowing how bad you can mess up by not giving the exact dose, I call the vet back and tell him this and to ask again how much water to mix it with. (This is my first diarrhea/cocci experience)
So on the phone he tells me to fill a gallon jug with water and take 3 cups of water back out.. (He could have just said put 100 ounces of water in the jug the first time!) add the powder to this and give Skippy 30cc every day for 5 days. Then he tells me it's probably going to taste bad and they'll spit it out so mix a box of jello with it. I ask if adding the jello changes the amount given to the goat.. he said um yeah it would so give him 35cc.
Ok, sounds easy enough.. So after hanging up I start figuring amounts for all the kids... then I got to thinking how much I would have to give the bigger babies! Yikes! I can't imagine squirting over 2 drench guns (30cc size) down a 54lb kid. I have images in my mind of raspberry jello covered goats and myself also! Here is the math I came up with; 35cc for a 27lb goat would equal 1.3cc per POUND, right? So a 54lb goat would take a little over 70cc's???? Right? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I really want to get this medicine down them TODAY and today is almost over! I have spent the entire afternoon trying to get this right and now I have a headache!
SO MY QUESTION IS: Can the Di-Methox be mixed in HALF the amount of water -50 ounces- and only giving 17cc without hurting the goat?:scratch:
And another question is should I treat the entire herd? He told me no, and I didn't have to treat all the kids, only the ones with runny poops... (only have one other kid with a clumpy poop) but I have been seeing clumpy poops off and on all summer and also paler eyes than should be... I'm thinking this might just be the entire problem! Maybe they only check cocci when you TELL them too. I have had a couple of fecals done this summer and both were negative for worms.
Good news! It was just a clear fluid and the vet said it wasn't CL.
***BUT***
yesterday morning I found he had diarrhea. I suspected cocci when I saw the diarrhea... so had my husband stop at the feed store and pick up Di-Methox. All they had was the powder.
I have been using Molly's Herbals on my goats well over a year and I do keep on top of it, so I gave him extra Formula #1 as Molly suggests. It seemed to stop the diarrhea yesterday but he had it again this morning, so I dosed him again this morning before the vet appoint this morning so I thought I'd have him do a fecal too before treating with anything.
He said that Skippy had NO worms... however was loaded with cocci!
Soo... after the fecal, the vet proceeds to tell me how to administer the Di-Methox powder that I already have at home....Unfortunately, now, he has me soo confused!!!!
He started doing all these metric (I don't do metric!!!) figures... showed me how to figure it out.. glad my husband was there too!First he had it to where I would measure the powder out in grams... Skippy weighed 27lbs, so that came to 1.35g of powder. So *finally* I had all the other 5 kids dosages figured out too, in grams. Then I find out that the little scale that I have only has one decimal point... so I could only get either 1.3g or 1.4g so not knowing how bad you can mess up by not giving the exact dose, I call the vet back and tell him this and to ask again how much water to mix it with. (This is my first diarrhea/cocci experience)
So on the phone he tells me to fill a gallon jug with water and take 3 cups of water back out.. (He could have just said put 100 ounces of water in the jug the first time!) add the powder to this and give Skippy 30cc every day for 5 days. Then he tells me it's probably going to taste bad and they'll spit it out so mix a box of jello with it. I ask if adding the jello changes the amount given to the goat.. he said um yeah it would so give him 35cc.
Ok, sounds easy enough.. So after hanging up I start figuring amounts for all the kids... then I got to thinking how much I would have to give the bigger babies! Yikes! I can't imagine squirting over 2 drench guns (30cc size) down a 54lb kid. I have images in my mind of raspberry jello covered goats and myself also! Here is the math I came up with; 35cc for a 27lb goat would equal 1.3cc per POUND, right? So a 54lb goat would take a little over 70cc's???? Right? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I really want to get this medicine down them TODAY and today is almost over! I have spent the entire afternoon trying to get this right and now I have a headache!
SO MY QUESTION IS: Can the Di-Methox be mixed in HALF the amount of water -50 ounces- and only giving 17cc without hurting the goat?:scratch:
And another question is should I treat the entire herd? He told me no, and I didn't have to treat all the kids, only the ones with runny poops... (only have one other kid with a clumpy poop) but I have been seeing clumpy poops off and on all summer and also paler eyes than should be... I'm thinking this might just be the entire problem! Maybe they only check cocci when you TELL them too. I have had a couple of fecals done this summer and both were negative for worms.
