Nervous about first kidding!

Discussion in 'Kidding Koral' started by YouGoatMe, Oct 25, 2020.

  1. YouGoatMe

    YouGoatMe Well-Known Member

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    May 31, 2020
    Texas
    Ok so 5 months ago I got the go-head from the vet, clean fecal, successful breeding of a doe. Now we are possibly 5 days away from kidding and despite my obsessive reading/research/youtubing/reading over the Kidding Supplies thread... I am getting NERVOUS!! We finished building a kidding stall. It is safely away from the other goats but still visible to them. I set up a hay feeder, mineral and food dish and water bucket. In a few days we will put a lot of bedding down. I gave the doe CD&T a week ago and checked her eyelids. I've noticed her vulva looking swollen and softer and her udder is filling (not quite full yet though). I've attached a picture of the birthing kid I've assembled. I have never done this so please feel free to critique anything and correct me if anything is wrong!

    These are my kit contents:
    *various syringes, needles, medicine cups
    *Calcium Drench
    *Nutri-drench
    *Selenium and Vitamin E Gel
    *Vitamin B Complex Gel
    *LA-200
    *Colostrum Supplement (realized after I bought this I should have gotten replacer...hopefully will not have issues but I'll probably get the replacer just in case)
    *Kid Bottle
    *Goat Electrolyte Powder
    *Gloves
    *Alcohol
    *Floss (for umbilical cords)
    *mineral oil
    *meloxicam tablets (these are just left over from a goat injury)
    Not pictured:
    *Bulb Syringe
    *Puppy Pads
    *Iodine
    *Towels
    *Molasses
    *Thermometer
    *Trash bags for waste

    What else do I need? I'm so nervous. This is my favorite doe. She is so gentle and calm, loves chin scratches and is just the best goat I could ever imagine. I didn't think I'd be so nervous when it came down to breeding but here I am worrying like I did with my human babies.

    Is it recommended to dewormer after birth even if it doesn't appear to be needed?
     

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  2. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Looks like you are well prepared. I only worm if needed.
     

  3. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Would make sure to get injectable B and cayenne! You're well-prepared, I would give garlic after birth to support her system and only deworm if needed.
     
  4. YouGoatMe

    YouGoatMe Well-Known Member

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    May 31, 2020
    Texas
    When would I used the injectable B and cayenne? I will definitely make sure to have garlic on hand. I was actually just reading about that!
     
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  5. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    B Complex injection works better than oral B.

    Cayenne is good orally ( a pinch rubbed on gums, or mixed with honey on gums) for energy, weak kids, shock in the doe, bleeding, appetite stimulation, heart and organ stimulator for slow starters, provides quick usable b vitamins and vitamin c.
     
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  6. YouGoatMe

    YouGoatMe Well-Known Member

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    May 31, 2020
    Texas
    Thank you so much! I will add it to my kit!
     
  7. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    I didnt see anything to lube your gloves with. So it's easier on your doe. Make sure you have plenty of light. I use a head.lamp..yes it's on my forehead...but no matter what position I need to get in..I have light.
    Also a small Dixie cup for the iodine to cover the umbilical cord. And an extra battery pack for your phone..so you can take all kinds of pictures.. lol
     
  8. YouGoatMe

    YouGoatMe Well-Known Member

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    May 31, 2020
    Texas
    I was thinking I'd just use the mineral oil but I might get some legit lube instead. My husband was just mentioning that oil is rather oily lol. We do have overhead lights in the barn and I took a phone charger out there already because I will be taking ALL the pictures!!
     
  9. MadHouse

    MadHouse Well-Known Member

    Nothing to add, just to say GOOD LUCK!
    It’s normal to be nervous! Kidding is an emotional rollercoaster ride!
    So, happy kidding!
     
  10. YouGoatMe

    YouGoatMe Well-Known Member

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    May 31, 2020
    Texas
    Thank you!!
     
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  11. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    I feel you about the nerves. I'm preparing for my first kidding in spring. I'm sure I'll be a wreck! Somethings that I've added to my kidding kit that I don't see on your list would be a stomach tube and 60ml syringe for feeding a super week kid, a fingernail clippers to make sure your fingernails are short if you have to "go in", a lamb puller or smooth baling twine to assist in pulling a kid, and of course a vet's phone number. I also hear that baby wipes can be helpful for all sorts of unwanted guck. I'm just a newbie like you though, so these things I mentioned are just suggestions off a list I'm using. Good luck! I'm sure you and your doe will do just great!
     
  12. AndersonRanch

    AndersonRanch Well-Known Member

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    Oct 17, 2020
    California
    B complex is awesome for new born kids that kinda are slow. I just get get 1/2cc and give it orally. I had preemies once that were kinda little blobs and didn’t have much life to them. Goat hiker told me about the B and also (I know I’m going to say it wrong) but liver cod oil........cod liver oil ???? As you can see I did not have that on hand lol so I just went with the B. The next day I had these lively little things. So I’m totally sold on it.
    Ok one thing that I keep that seems so dumb but I have used it countless times, a hay string. That comes in SO handy for hanging onto legs, either to pull or if you have to push a kid back in to keep track of body parts. For a terrible kidding I once had I even used that to put around the nose and threw the mouth to bring a head back up threw the front legs. But I am now the weirdo that keeps a haystring in her bag because you would be surprised how those million strings that you have just vanish when you need one lol
    But a feeding tube for the kid (this is SUPER easy to do if you have never done it!)
    And I have uterine boluses. I know this is a huge debate and I’m not here to start it but I use those instead of giving antibiotics if I have to go in cleanly. But that’s me and I think the boluses are a good idea ;)
     
  13. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
    Yes! Always have uterine boluses and Pen G on hand if you have to go in! It never hurts to give both! Some also reccomend a uterine flush, because it flushes the bacteria, but usually, both boluses and strong antibiotics are fine :) !

    Happy Kidding! Make sure to post pictures of the new arrivals when they get here!!!
     
  14. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
    Also, i will add that you never get rid of that nervous feeling. I've only gone through 12 births, but every single time, i couldn't sleep, i was constantly checking on them, and when the time came, I got so nervous I wanted to cry!! I have 4 does due this spring, 2 due on the same day, and it doesn't seem like a lot, but I'm pretty much in this by myself, so its very nerve wracking!
     
  15. fivemoremiles

    fivemoremiles Well-Known Member

    Jan 19, 2010
    western montana
    you are well prepared. except you need to work on your self. the hardest part is keeping a respectful distance. you must remember that your doe is going through a great deal of stress. your excitement will be communicated to the doe. adding to her stress. walk away you are not needed. calmly walk in to check stay back and quietly observe then quietly leave. then do your happy dance out of sight. :coolmoves:
     
  16. Michaela Van Mecl

    Michaela Van Mecl Well-Known Member

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    Sep 3, 2018
    Northern Virginia
    Yay! How exciting!

    This spring was my first time also. The one bit of advice, is that when her water broke it wasn't as much fluid as I had expected... seemed kind of like a lot of drippy discharge to my unexperienced eye. I think I expected a huge burst but that never happened. Needless to say, she ended up in labor with a breached kid for quite a long time. Everything ended up good, but only because I called an experienced goat friend who thought it was worth stopping by to check.

    She also wasn't as loud as I expected! No loud noises, pawing, or anything like that.

    My take away was, if she seems like she's in labor and has been for a while, don't be afraid to glove up and check it out. You'll know pretty quick if she isn't, or if she is and if there's a positioning issue =)
     
  17. YouGoatMe

    YouGoatMe Well-Known Member

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    May 31, 2020
    Texas
    I think this is what I'm nervous about. Me missing signs that something needs attention. My husband grew up on a sheep ranch and is very experienced pulling lambs and that whole process so I'm leaning on his experience in that part. I've been obsessively staring at my doe and taking pictures of her back end to compare and see if things look like they are changing. My husband teased me that my camera roll on my phone is just full of goat porn lol!!
     
  18. YouGoatMe

    YouGoatMe Well-Known Member

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    May 31, 2020
    Texas
    Ok one thing I'd like to write down for my notes...
    Is there a labor and delivery timeline that I can copy to keep handy? I know the udder will fill and be tight or shiny, mucus string can come out and that is a sign that things will happen soon. If I see amber goo I should see pushing within about 30 minutes, is that correct? Once a kid comes out, how long is it before I know she will or won't have another one?
     
  19. YouGoatMe

    YouGoatMe Well-Known Member

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    May 31, 2020
    Texas
    Also, I just went out to check on her and snap a pic. She still has ligaments but they are much less noticeable than here non-pregnant friends. The tail flopping to the side like that is a sign they are loosening right? Normally her tail is straight up
     

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  20. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Your doing great. Getting all kinds of info. All does are the same..but different. 30 minutes is just a guide.line. if she is a first timer it may take a little bit more. I'm in my 5th year of birthing..I still get excited! Its wonderful.
    Watch your does..her vuvlva will present what's coming..I have a picture its graphic..ill.post it and you can see it.
    One thing I use on birthing is the inside paper.of my feed sacs. The brown lining. Birthing material.sticks to it..so you just.roll it up and throw it away. And its free 20190626_131506.jpg about 10 minutes later 20190626_134041.jpg 20190626_134758.jpg ..just be patient...watch and wait. Dont touch if you dont have to. Many times...we just do clean up. We prepare for the few times we help.
    Enjoy it.