Please bear with this long post...I am too wordy... I am both excited and disappointed with my new boy. I purchased him through an online auction. I saw many photos of him. I even saw one of him from the rear where he was standing just as if he was being shown, as a young kid (maybe a week old.) He looked great in the photos, from all angles. I picked him up at my first show this weekend. He still looks great everywhere...except his back legs. And that worries me. His hocks turn in a good deal when he is standing naturally in the field. If you get him set up with his legs spread properly, it seems slight, but is still noticeable. It also seems, to me, like his rear pasterns are pretty weak. They want to buckle forward rather than be straight. I showed him in three rings, and he took two fourths and a second. Now, there were only 4 bucklings in his class...so he took two lasts and one second. I was under the assumption he would be both clipped and worked with before I got him. It was a drag, scream, and leap festival. And he was super furry. In the class that he got a second in, he had finally decided to calm down and cooperate, and both walked and set up nicely and STOOD STILL. All his competitors were much better behaved overall though. In the other two classes he wanted to hunch up in a ball and refused to stand correctly. I wonder if that is the difference in placings...and if I work with him allot and get him cooperating and posing correctly...if that rear leg set isn't as huge of a deal? Of course, I want to have a high quality breeding program and worry about breeding those legs into my goats...but the rest of him is wonderful. I'm very conflicted...and supposedly he has great udder/milking genetics. His full brother from the same birthing was there, showing against me. He took last in the class I took second in, and took 2nd in the other classes. He has great, straight legs. His sire was also there, showing, and he had great legs. From photos of mom, she has great legs as well. Maybe his crooked legs were a throw back to grandparents. Maybe its something in the way he developed, because I swear his legs were nice and straight as a younger kid. Do they sometimes get stronger in the leg structure as they grow...or weaker? He is a little over 3 months. Are there any tips/tricks I can use when trimming his feet to promote a more proper stance? What do you think of him, overall, from these photos? I do think he'll place consistently better clipped though (as I have obviously done recently), as the furryness on the inside of his legs made him look like he had poor width, which he doesn't. That and the hairy ridge over his topline/rump didn't help. Kinda irritates me that I paid for those classes and had to show an unclipped/untrained kid. Lol (He still has green tattoo ink, pretty much all over his face...although its much lighter after a clip job.) I am already in love with his personality. Too bad he'll be a stinky horn-dog before too long...probably sticky with pee too. No more cuddling for him at that point. Well, maybe after a nice bath. I guess I'll work with him, getting him walking/posing really good, and take him to a couple more shows this summer and let that decide for me whether I'll keep him or not. That and some test breedings.