New Ivomec Injectable dose

Discussion in 'Parasites' started by NigerianDwarfOwner707, Aug 6, 2020.

  1. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    It was to my previous knowledge that ivermectin injectable was 1cc per 40lbs, or given orally, 1cc per 33lbs.

    I have heard a few people now say it is 1cc per 30lbs oral.

    Very confused now!
     
  2. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    I can’t speak for everyone but maybe they are just rounding? I do round on things because it’s just easier and faster and IMO better to give a little too much then a tad not enough.
    But I don’t do ivermectin orally so I can’t say for sure lol
     

  3. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    In my area, 1mL per 30lbs orally is used with no ill effects. Most folks are estimating the weights anyhow so that difference in dosage likely is absorbed in poor weight estimating and poor math! haha

    Ivermectin has a HUGE margin of safety so rounding up is always a good idea in weight estimate and dosing.
     
  4. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    I agree..actual dose is 1cc per 33 pounds but rounding seems appropriate at that difference especially since many estimate weight. This difference should not cause harm. I will still suggest the 1 per 33# but like salty mentioned. Ivimec has a very wide margin of safety.
    One rule of thumb i tell people when estimating weight is to add 10 pounds on a grown standard goat. Add 5 pounds on adult nigerian. (Unless they are using meds that are weight sensitive, then weigh your goat) as stated, better to over give than undergive dewormers.
     
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  5. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Orally 1 cc per 33 lbs, but 1 cc per 30 lbs is OK too.
    Do not give anemic goats Ivomec orally.

    Injected Ivomec is 1 cc per 40 lbs for mites and for anemic goats.
     
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  6. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Doesn’t that warning go for all oral wormers when anemic?

    Not just ivermectin?
     
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  7. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    All injectable or pour-ons should not be given orally in anemic goats. If its made for oral..its ok..like valbazen.

    I would not give pour ons orally ever!
     
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  8. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    So there is not a worry about a bleed out if giving an oral wormer like ivomec sheep drench, valbazen, prohibit, cydectin drench, quest, and all the above to a severely anemic goat?

    Only if it's an injectable?

    Why is that?
     
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  9. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    Correct. Its the mode of action in which it is designed to work.
    Injectable dewormers like ivomec are designed to be injected and stay in the system longer, killing worms slowly. Given orally in goes in kills a bunch and leaves the system. If the goat is heavy loaded, this faster kill could be more than the goat can handle and cause dead worm toxicity or bleed out.
    Pour ons are found to also give a quick kill. The added danger in these would be the chemicals they use to help it stick to the thick cow hyde among other things.
     
  10. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    But oral wormers that are supposed to be oral do not kill as fast - correct?
     
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  11. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    Correct. it's a slower kill from what I understand.
     
  12. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    I would have thought any oral would be a faster kill.
     
  13. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    Yah, can be confusing. I think because it's made to be oral, there are ingredients that slow things down. There are some oral dewormers that are stronger, like Quest. It has the strongest moxidectin in it of 20 mg/kg
    This is one dewormer I would not give off the bat if there is heavy load. As a booster I would.
     
  14. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California