New to goats, need help with behavior

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GoblinsCareingForGoats

Discussion Starter · May 12, 2022

I rescued 2 goats. A male and female. I castrated the male but he was about 10 months old and had already impregnated the female before I could castrate him.

As an ex buck (he had unlimited access to her his entire life as far as I understand) he is still showing the same signs of a non neutered goat (head butting humans and goats, not listening to "no", urinating on himself, mouth stimulation of genitals, penitration of the other goat, all that gross stuff) and I can't break him of any of these habits.
I've tried a water bottle and "no" (the female goat understands this command and follows it. The male understands but chooses not to follow. I swear you can see what he's thinking.), when that didn't work I went to flipping him on his back until he calmed down. That worked for a while but more than once he's responded with a hard headbutt. I went to smacking him on his nose as a last resort.

He's removed from the female and their still nursing child but this loneliness has caused more aggression
His headbutts are getting harder, he's getting more ornery and I'm at the end of my rope with him.
I don't want to but I'm about to send him to a farm upstate. 😆

Does anyone have any tips to get this guy to calm down and stop acting a fool or is he doomed to be gross for life? Is there a device to wrap around his middle?
Will the baby goat learn to hump his mother and headbutt humans from his father? (Already banded the baby, making sure both almond shaped testes were in the sack. Not fun but I am NOT having a repeat 😆)

Thanks in advance for any help/advice!❤

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NigerianNewbie

· #2 · May 12, 2022

What method was used to castrate the buck and how long ago was the procedure done?

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Moers kiko boars

· #3 · May 12, 2022

The way he is acting, by your description, sounds as if he still has a testicle. It does take a few weeks for all testosterone to be out of his system, once all testes are removed.

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Kaitlyn

· #4 · May 12, 2022

I believe it takes about 30 days for all the testosterone to be gone once whethered. If he was banded, there may still be something hiding up there, so I personally would have a feel yourself to see if you can feel anything, and if not then a vet would most likely check him out.

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Boer Mama

· #5 · May 12, 2022

Since he was banded later in life, I feel like that behavior has been learned. It may lessen as the testosterone dissipates, but idk if it’ll go completely away.
Last year my billy was being very Bucky and chittering at and chasing girls before I was able to send him away in June. The little boys seemed to learn from that behavior and started acting pretty Bucky. Not to the extent of yours, but still definitely a learned behavior. Once the billy was gone and they were banded all was well… other than one wether that we missed a testicle when banding. Lol

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GoblinsCareingForGoats

Discussion Starter · #6 · May 12, 2022

NigerianNewbie said:
What method was used to castrate the buck and how long ago was the procedure done?

The vet removed them himself. I watched. They were huge. Even the vet said they were way big.
Happened........4 or so months ago I believe.

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GoblinsCareingForGoats

Discussion Starter · #7 · May 12, 2022

Boer Mama said:
Since he was banded later in life, I feel like that behavior has been learned. It may lessen as the testosterone dissipates, but idk if it’ll go completely away.
Last year my billy was being very Bucky and chittering at and chasing girls before I was able to send him away in June. The little boys seemed to learn from that behavior and started acting pretty Bucky. Not to the extent of yours, but still definitely a learned behavior. Once the billy was gone and they were banded all was well… other than one wether that we missed a testicle when banding. Lol

I was afraid of that. I let them have a brief interaction, just to see if the little one was old enough to be ok with supervision, and the male taught my little one headbutting. I'm still trying to stop the little guy from bashing my ankles. Lol

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GoblinsCareingForGoats

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 12, 2022

Kaitlyn said:
I believe it takes about 30 days for all the testosterone to be gone once whethered. If he was banded, there may still be something hiding up there, so I personally would have a feel yourself to see if you can feel anything, and if not then a vet would most likely check him out.

The vet got the older one, his testes were to large to be banded and I watched the vet cut them out to make sure they were gone for good. Lol.
He was castrated about 4 months ago so I suppose he's as tame as he's gonna get. Anyone want a semi tame neutered male goat? 😆 🤣 😆 🤣

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ksalvagno

· #9 · May 13, 2022

He may take down yet.

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GoblinsCareingForGoats

Discussion Starter · #10 · May 13, 2022

ksalvagno said:
He may take down yet.

He tries to take me down daily by locking his horn around my knee and pulling 😆 😆 😆
I'd love for him to chill out

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Boer Mama

· #11 · May 13, 2022

Haha- I think @ksalvagno meant tame down, not take down, but I could be wrong! 😂

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MadHouse

· #12 · May 13, 2022

I remember a member who gave his ram-bunctious buck a boxing punch bag.
Apparently it really helped the buck.

Clyde and his new toy

So folks, I just want to say thanks. Clyde has put me to the test. I am looking at a Nigi Wether named Checkers to possibly join him BUT. I had a full size punching bag in my shed not in use. So we repurposed some lumber and I hung it down there for him. At first he wasnt really interested in...

www.thegoatspot.net

There were a couple more threads about this, by the same member.