[Hockeydudde]

Hello,
Been lurking for a while. Decided to finally join and post. We have had two pregnant/post-partum Nigerian Dwarf does since November. Zuni (tan) gave birth to 3 kids 2weeks ago. Went great, unassisted. Moka (brown and white) should be due any day now.
I decided to finally post because I disbudded Zuni's buckling today and I'm not sure it went very well. I'm assuming I'm going to have to do him again, but I'd like to do better on the two doelings. I know it's hard from a picture, but any tips or corrections?
Thanks and glad to be here!

 

[ksalvagno]

Actually, it looks pretty good. Time will tell if you get scurs.

 

[Hockeydudde]

Thanks for the encouragement. If scurs are going to grow, I plan to re-burn them. What sort of time frame will the re-growth be apparent? Just wondering if it'll be a few months, or more like something I need to be checking on daily.

 

[ksalvagno]

More like a few weeks. It will be obvious.

 

[MissMiniNubian]

Welcome! Congrats on the kids, they’re adorable!

 

[toth boer goats]

Welcome glad you are here.

 

[Hockeydudde]

Thanks! We think so too obviously.
Now we are just stressing about Moka. Her ligaments are taking a lot longer to loosen. Zuni's went from 90% there to totally gone in about 18 hours, then babies born a few hours later. Moka's started loosening about 3 days ago, and are still about 30% stiff. She has had a zombie/cross eyed look the whole 3 days. She is eating, but slowly is say. Just normal variation? Thanks for the help!

 

[Calistar]

The disbudding job looks good to me too. I don't do my own but I hold them while my very experienced neighbor burns them, and yours look pretty similar.

 

[GoofyGoat]

Welcome,
Each goat is different, I have one doe who’ll have No ligs for 36hours Then another who will kid but I swear I can find ligs they’re deep but they’re there.
Just watch Moka and offer her a variety of things to nibble. She needs the energy.
Did you hand breed her so you have a exact(ish) due date or a window due date? If she’s off feed for long, check her ketones.

 

[Hockeydudde]

Welcome,
Each goat is different, I have one doe who'll have No ligs for 36hours Then another who will kid but I swear I can find ligs they're deep but they're there.
Just watch Moka and offer her a variety of things to nibble. She needs the energy.
Did you hand breed her so you have a exact(ish) due date or a window due date? If she's off feed for long, check her ketones.

I bought her already bred. She was put in with the buck Oct 2nd so between the 24th and the 12th should be reasonable. Going to try to catch some urine now.

 

[Hockeydudde]

I just used a human strip. Keytomes was just above trace, maybe 1.0 mmol/l. The strip was a general purpose I've, so I noticed protein was high, off the human chart. Bilirubin was also elevated, again for a human. Oh was very low, < 6.0.
She ate all her grain tonight, about 1/2 lb with nutridrench added, but it took her a few hours instead of minutes. Should I up the grain, or maybe 2 times per day? I tried apples and bananas, not interested. Also interestingly, she seems barely interested in alfalfa, but is going for the sudan grass I have for sheep.
Thanks!

 

[GoofyGoat]

My goats love Sudan too lol.
Keep a close eye on her ketones... are her legs swollen at all or is she gimping around?
You can give her A “Magic” drench.
It’s one part molasses one part corn oil and two parts Karo syrup. Also give her calcium gummies (human) or you can give her 2carrots and 2 stalks celery juiced together to help her along.
Nutridrench can burn the throat a bit and also put her off food.

 

[Hockeydudde]

I don't think her legs look swollen, but it'll be easier to tell in the morning. Barn doesn't have good lighting.
I made some magic and mixed it with calcium carbonate, shredded carrots, celery and enough grain to soak up the moisture. If she hasn't eaten it by morning, I'll drench her with magic. Thanks for the tip.
She is still acting very uncomfortable, but no amber goo yet that I've seen.

 

[GoofyGoat]

I hope everything goes well for y’all and Moka! This is a great community of goat lovin folks who will bend over backwards to try to help.
Keep us posted.
Where in NM are ya, I love Albuquerque especially the green Chile at Owl Cafe...I’ve gained 10lbs on their breakfasts every time I visit. But old Town for dinner ....yum

 

[goathiker]

My goats always go for the grass hay the last week of or so of pregnancy. They seem to know instinctively that it contains more needed sugars than the alfalfa and grains. Give her what she wants and cut out the nutridrench, it's main ingredient is propylene glycol which can burn the throat linings.

 

[Hockeydudde]

Thanks for the tips about nutridrench. It doesn't smell like something I want to eat, so I should have guessed.
I'm going to go check keytones here shortly. I gave 15 ml of magic last night. I tried searching around, but didn't find specific dosage and frequency.Should I keep giving it periodically until birth, or only when keytones are elevated?

 

[Hockeydudde]

I hope everything goes well for y'all and Moka! This is a great community of goat lovin folks who will bend over backwards to try to help.
Keep us posted.
Where in NM are ya, I love Albuquerque especially the green Chile at Owl Cafe...I've gained 10lbs on their breakfasts every time I visit. But old Town for dinner ....yum

I'm just south of Abq. Owl cafe was my grandpa's second favorite restaurant. If you are in the area, Padilla's was his #1. Although if there are too many New Mexicans on here, I'm probably starting an off topic tangent debating who has the best mexican food. Personally, Las Cruces has way better food than Abq.

 

[GoofyGoat]

I'm just south of Abq. Owl cafe was my grandpa's second favorite restaurant. If you are in the area, Padilla's was his #1. Although if there are too many New Mexicans on here, I'm probably starting an off topic tangent debating who has the best mexican food. Personally, Las Cruces has way better food than Abq.

I've been to Padilla's it's yummy! I used to live in Edgewood just north of Abq.
How's your girl today?
Are her legs tender, is she eating better?

 

[Hockeydudde]

Legs are not swollen. She isn't very friendly, doesn't usually like being touched much, and had gotten more shy, but I don't think her legs are tender. She died look better today. I think I'll give more magic and grain. Figure it can't hurt much. I've been in the pen for 30 minutes now, she refuses to pee.

 

[GoofyGoat]

Encourage her to drink a lot too. Hang in there