Ok, I have a doe named Darcy. I got her last year through a trade and there were no papers involved though it was thought that she may be able to get papers later on. Well I've had her for 7 months and still have no papers so I'm ready just to send her in as a NOA. So my questions are, what herdname does she get? Does she get one at all? Do you leave the sire,dam and breeder sections blank on the application? I also need someone to write a letter explaining that she does conform to the Lamancha standard. Someone offered last year but I don't remember who it was. She is a full size dairy doe and is actually a little larger than my other two Lamanchas Meg & Birdie. She has elf ears. Here are photos of her back when I got her... I haven't taken new photos of pretty much any of my goats yet this year except those who went to a show a few weeks ago. So I'll be doing that gradually starting soon.