Opinions on this doe?

Discussion in 'Dairy Diaries' started by keren, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. keren

    keren owned by goats

    Oct 26, 2008
    Australia
    Strengths and weaknesses, and would you buy her? lol

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  2. ksacres

    ksacres New Member

    161
    Oct 30, 2007
    San Antonio Texas
    Here's what I see that I don't like:

    Roach back
    Steep rump
    Shallow chest
    Coarse-not smoothly blended
    Abrupt fore udder (lack of smooth blending)
    No real rear udder (1/3 1/3 1/3 udder placement being ideal)
    Incorrect teat placement (too far to the sides)
    Teats very small for the overall size of the doe
    Weak leg set (though it looks to me like some of it *may* be that the owner isn't extremely good at trimming feet yet-the toes are too long and the heels are too short, with more practice people get more proficient, and this is something that can be corrected with proper trimming)

    Here's what I see that I do like:

    Doe is long and tall (I like 'em big)
    Heavy bone (I like 'em big ~but not everyone does~ lol)
    No extra fleshing (I don't like obese goats)


    Things I can't see:
    Rear udder arch to see attachment and height (escutcheon area)
    Rear view to see side attachment and medial suspensory ligament and width of the goat
    Production
    Front view to see width of the brisket area
    View from the top to see the other aspects of body capacity, spring of rib, etc
    Personality



    In short, it depends on what you want her for. If you want her as a show doe or hope to produce a show doe (I'm talking open competition here, 4-H is generally not as competitive), I would pass. There are too many things about her (that make up large portions of the score card) that just wouldn't be competitive in today's arena. If she is reasonably priced and you just want her for a pet/milk type animal-go for it!
     

  3. Epona142

    Epona142 The farm that Hope began

    May 25, 2008
    Madisonville, TX
    *Points up and nods*

    She has a real coarse over all look. I'm not super experienced with goat confirmation (yet) but to me she just doesn't look balanced.
     
  4. keren

    keren owned by goats

    Oct 26, 2008
    Australia
    thanks, that helps immensely

    there was something bugging me about her and I think it is just that she's not real balanced

    this rump is pretty normal for Aust. goats, and those teats are what I'm looking for to get into show ring quality, our show ring wont tolerate big teats (even though they are good for hand milking :roll: go figure) I think apart from that everything you've pointed out is spot on

    I like big goats too lol

    She is dry or drying off in these pics which may influence the comments about the udder

    I did notice the less than ideal teat placement

    I had a rear udder shot somewhere but it seems to have disappears

    thanks for all that, extremely helpful :greengrin: