Oregon Oregonians, Washingtonians, or Californianseffected by the fires?

Discussion in 'Regional Forums' started by CottonwoodBoerGoats, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. Buck Naked Boers

    Buck Naked Boers Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    Oregon
    Thank you all. We appreciate the support.

    Cottonwood yes completely agree! A lot isn’t being reported on here in Oregon.

    Arson house fires. One lady lost her hubby in June and lost her house to arsonist a few days ago in our town.

    A few days ago there was someone throwing mail all over a couple streets out not far from our house. We live in a rural town.

    It’s like people are loosing common sense! We had a high speed chase(police and looter) down country rd to highway a few days ago. Police put down spikes and got the passenger front tire. Finally stopped the person. But chase was 60-70 miles hr.

    So thankful for the police!!! They are patrolling our town. And so thankful for their support!

    Glad all of you in the PNW are safe!! Hope we all stay safe going forward!!

    Way too many forests with underbrush that hasn’t been cleaned out. Because of our interesting rules now. We need to bring back logging. PNW needs that. And our forests need the cleaning that provides.

    I know not all people will agree with me. But I live in a logging town. And live by way too many forests that are way to overgrown with under brush. Too many fires!!
     
  2. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    Buck naked Boers I am SO SO happy to hear you and yours are ok!
    I’m with you though, they do need to bring back logging. I know a lot of people think of logging as clear cutting. That’s not really what logging is. Yes it has been done and it worked in certain areas like the coast but it doesn’t help much in forests. All it does is make room for more brush to grow. They need to go in and selective log. Take the sick and dying trees out. It has been so very hard to explain to others in deferent states exactly what we are dealing with. This doesn’t show the forest floors but this is what is currently burning on the fire by me
    IMG_3160.jpg the floor is even worse. And that is what has me the most nervous about our cows. There is so much brush and downed trees that they only have a few tails to follow and a few old over grown dirt roads. They simply can not go threw where they want or need to. And no I am not getting all political and saying one way or the other about climate change or anything else, it simply comes down to the less stuff there is to burn the smaller the fire. I think eventually people will come to understand that, it’s just sad that so much will be lost before then.
     

  3. CaramelKittey

    CaramelKittey Well-Known Member

    So glad you are all still safe! I’ve been told that WADDL’s phone lines were disconnected due to the fires, but they should be back up now.
     
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  4. CaramelKittey

    CaramelKittey Well-Known Member

    Glad you are safe! No trees can thrive when they are surrounded by that many other trees. If that isn’t a fire hazard, I don’t know what is.
    I hope it doesn’t spread closer to you or your cows. :hug:
     
  5. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Years ago, when they were logging and clearing out the mess from under tree's with controlled burning, we did not have many fires.
    When we did have a fire break, they were put out pretty quickly, because of the land management clearing and maintenance.

    When the tree huggers had a fit and stopped this, it was a huge mistake, when authorities gave into them. Now because of them, we have out of control fires in which we are seeing today.

    It has nothing to do with climate change at all. I lived through all this and seen this fact for myself and what it has done to our forests and peoples lives.
     
  6. CaramelKittey

    CaramelKittey Well-Known Member

    I agree! These tree huggers have no idea the damage they have done to the lives of so many people. :( More trees were probably harmed and starved out due to the lack of forest management anyway. I agree, it doesn't make any sense how the fires could have anything to do with 'climate change.'
     
  7. Boers4ever

    Boers4ever Well-Known Member

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    Jun 28, 2020
    East Texas
    Hello everyone! I am praying for all of y’all. I don’t live over there but I do have a good friend that lives in Mt. Vernon, Washington. I haven’t been able to contact her in several weeks and was wondering if any of you Washingtonians knows how the people in Mt. Vernon are. I’m really worried about her.
    Thanks.
     
  8. littleheathens

    littleheathens Active Member

    120
    Apr 27, 2019
    south central WI
    Oh boy, your personal photos are especially compelling. Sending thoughts of safety, rain, and less wind to the entire region. Firefighters are amazing.

    Our 4-H club plans to have a fundraiser soon and we want to donate all proceeds. These kids would love to help a PNW club, animals or farms impacted, or the firefighters (how do they eat? is food hauled in to them?). Any ideas how we can help on the small and intimate scale are welcome.

    Thinking of you all...
     
  9. CottonwoodBoerGoats

    CottonwoodBoerGoats Active Member

    101
    Jun 7, 2020
    PNW
    That honestly makes me sick, That this could’ve been prevented. All of those trees are completely dry and dead!
    Glad to hear that everyone is doing well. I went to volunteer at the Oregon State fairgrounds and it’s nearly empty! But man are they prepared! They didn’t have very much work for us but we did get to clean a mini llama pen! All of the animals there are going home soon, thank goodness! We had an inch and a half of rain last night and the smoke is clear in Salem! Thank you for praying everybody! God’s at work in the PNW and everywhere!
     
  10. CottonwoodBoerGoats

    CottonwoodBoerGoats Active Member

    101
    Jun 7, 2020
    PNW
    a few ideas...
    Building and fencing supply money for the kids whose farms burned
    Feed certificates etc
    A small supply of hay, bedding etc

    You could contact a feed store in this area coastal farm and ranch, tractor supply, Wilco... and ask if you could pay for a certain number of 4-H kids feed or something, you may have to get a little creative and make a few phone calls but I wish you the best! Anything you can send to those who have nothing will make someone’s day!
     
  11. Tanya

    Tanya Well-Known Member

  12. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    The loggers also has logging trails that helped with fire fighters getting access to the front of the fires. We don’t have that any more plus with the hands off approach a lot of the old roads the forest service had put in are grown over. It’s so bad here fire fighters really can not hike in because there is no getting out fast. I watched the briefing the other day and there is between 1,000 and 6,000 ton of crap per acre on the ground. That’s not heavy green trees on the ground that is lighter dead trees.
    Sorry I have been MIA. My two jersey milk cows ended up getting very sick I believe over this smoke so have been dealing with them. Everyone else is fine here and jerseys are not bred for hardiness what so ever but everyone that is smoked in keep a close eye on your animals. Also if you are getting ash dump your water often and refill. I didn’t even think about this until after they were sick but I guess a lot of people are having issues with lye poisoning. We have a lot of floating fish in our ponds right now because of the ash, which i haven’t been over to the ponds until yesterday so was totally clueless about it.
    We got a few phone calls yesterday. The first was one guy with the forest service my mom has been trying to get ahold of to get the ok to go up there and see what is going on. The top of our range is still burned, the middle is still hot but the bottom has already burned and just some hot spots. He is sending a guy out to meet with my dad and he is going to escort my dad in to see if we still have a corral, can we even haul anything out and if anyone is around that needs to be put down he can. Dad just left and will be back tonight so hopefully we can get a plan started. The other phone call was from a guy my dad knows. He has been going in the past week to fall snags on the lower part and he has so far seen 15 cows the past week in a few different meadows. He didn’t want to spook them and get too close but says they look unharmed. So that gives me a bit more hope. Well figured I better update while I can before this week’s crisis hits me :/ I told my husband after this and missing season in November we need to go on some kind of vacation!
     
  13. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Wow. Will continue to pray for you. Glad your Jersey cows are ok.
     
  14. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
  15. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    Yesterday my dad was able to con them into letting him go up with a babysitter driving him. It is bad up there! We don’t have a corral, it burned so hot it actually split this huge boulder in 3 pieces. Where they hauled the cows it actually burned the hottest. I’m not really sure why since it was a lot of rock in that area. But dad talked to one fire guy and he said it burned in strips so it should have given the cows a chance to get away.
    He saw 8 of the cows. One her back legs are pretty burned. One cow the side of her face has no hair but only one little burn but it also could have been a scratch. She can still see and seems fine. One of the calf’s his ear tag is totally melted and black instead of green but doesn’t have a mark on him.
    We have to be approved before we can do anything. So we came up with a plan and sent it in and just got the ok. We are going to go with our babysitter and get the one cow out tomorrow. She right now is in a meadow with feed and water so she has no reason to move. And then we are going to slowly start gathering what is in the mostly cooler spots. It’s still hot and a bunch of stuff still burning, it will until winter but not everything is still burning.
    Littleheathens you had asked about what to do with the proceeds. You don’t have to go this way but a idea. When we went to get our panels from the feed store I went to stock up on meds. When I went to get supplies to doctor these girls I went to pay for it and because it was for animals effected by the fire it was covered. So many people donated money to go to any animals that needed anything from feed to vet supplies. I told them I was prepared to pay for it we could save it for someone else and they said no there is a pretty good little fund going on for it. And let me tell you I was super happy not having to pay that bill! I would have if someone needed it Also but that was a HIGE relief. But i never would have thought to give money to the feed store. Give to evacuation centers absolutely but not everyone needs to place their animals there.
    So my life will be busy doctoring animals and keeping my jerseys alive. They are doing MUCH better. One just got up on her own today and the other seems much stronger. Neither one is coughing any more. And the goats, out of all the animals are not missing a beat but I have held off on pulling them bucks and putting all the girls together. It’s way too smoky for them to be establishing their pecking order. It will make kidding interesting having them in 4 different pens but I’ll figure that out in November I guess
     
  16. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    I hope you can find all your cattle and get them out of there.
     
  17. littleheathens

    littleheathens Active Member

    120
    Apr 27, 2019
    south central WI
    Awww, I love that people are filling funds at feed stores! I would not have thought of that without these suggestions.

    It may take a few weeks but I'm going to do a little more research and see if I can set up a Sister 4-H County thing- probably many other clubs in my county would be interested in donating funds from our upcoming county wide fundraiser. We're forbidden to meet in person at all for at least several months so we have low expenses.

    I will share your ideas with our county leaders. Feel free to give more ideas or specifics.
    ~Molly
     
  18. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    So awesome to hear how people do care about livestock & pets after such a catastrophe! You go HUMAN KIND! Restore my Faith in you one donation at a time!:angel:
    ALL of you are in my prayers and thoughts. Thankyou for keeping us posted on your struggles & triumphs. And for your ideas for donations!
     
  19. CaramelKittey

    CaramelKittey Well-Known Member

    I’m so glad to hear help is being sent their way. (thumbup)

    Praying for you all in the fires!
     
  20. Tanya

    Tanya Well-Known Member

    :ponder: still praying that all your animals make it safely. And all the humans too