They are really great goats. Different issues than dairy or meat. They seem to be less prone to CAE and CL but they are wormier. Still, I love them and their horns curve back so it's not usually a problem. Sometimes the boy's horns curve out to the side. If that happens with our whether, he will get moved to the buck pen next summer when it's built. This is what they looked like a couple of days before I sheared.