And so the goat newbie begins the tidal wave of questions. For Nigerian Dwarfs, about how large should the pen pasture be for four? I have a 30 by 80 rectangle planned for their pasture. It looked a decent size when I was planning, but I keep looking at it and second guessing myself. Is that way too small for four? I can drop it down in an L shape with another 30 by 30 square, but there used to be a patch of english ivy there, it's still clinging to a tree there(it's tall, but with no branches a goat could reach, so it's not a problem), and I heard ivy's toxic for goats. It's old stock too, with some of the vine branches a good seven or so inches around :shocked: , but I might be able to get it off the trunk. What are your thoughts? Should I only get two goats? Should I expand the pasture? Or both? Second question, fencing. If I used wood slat fencing about 6-7ft tall do you think that'd keep them from jumping out or is that a little bit over kill? I want to keep them in, because there's a fairly busy road nearby and I've heard many tales of Houdini goats so I worry.