Well we are in Kansas at Fort Hay State College with my daughter for family weekend. I have all these does ready to kid. I have someone at my house goat sitting and he called and Penny lane just had a White Buck and a black doe with socks. :kidblue: :kidred: :stars: I am glad that he was there because he had to help just a bit. The Buck was first and his front feet were down so he had to reposition him and he came right out. They easy out came a doe. :leap: I just wish the doe was white. :leap: Oh well. I still have Monica that was bred to the same buck. I will post pictures when I get home and am able to get some. Thank the good lord for GREAT people that you can count on when your are away.