I had a very long, difficult, and rather upsetting morning I'm afraid.. Last night Pepper had me concerned. She had progressed to amber and blood tinged discharge with no other signs of labor. Thanks to Jena's advice, I got her up and had a look. I thought her cervix was open but on closer look, it was just ope...n a finger's width, so I let her be for now. Early this morning she finally started to labor. After a little bit I knew something wasn't right so I went in and pulled the first kid. It was positioned wrong and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't straighten him out. Black and white, moonspotted buckling. I think blue eyes. I thought for sure he was dead but he started breathing so I cleaned him off. Pepper just laid there and finally I fished the second kid out, a buckskin blue eyed doeling. Very tiny. The third kid was stillborn, black and white buckling. Pepper showed no interest in her kids and had no udder at all. I was able to get a bare squeeze from each, so I warmed up the frozen colostrum I had and was syringing it to the tiny boy when hubby tells me, Indy is kidding. I go to Indy, who pushes out two HUGE bucklings. One buckskin, blue eyes, and one dark colored with maybe a moonspot? Hard to tell. I bundled up Pepper's buckling and took him inside, and then took a chance and gave Indy the doeling. Indy started licking her and then the doeling got up and nursed. She's TINY compared to Indy's bucklings but I think she may have a chance. I hit Pepper with power punch, red cell, selenium gel, and an antibiotic. She was starting to pass the afterbirth so I am hoping she pulls through this. She is eating and drinking and her color is good, but she and her babies need some jingles. I don't think the buckling will make it. Pepper's buckling...he's very weak. He probably will not make it but I am trying everything for him. Pepper's doeling. Beautiful little girl...she got to her feet and nursed from Indy who adopted her. I think she has a slim shot. Will be supplementing her. Crappy pic of Indy's boys..will get more later when I'm not so exhausted.