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Well horrible ones anyways ! Wow, how in the world do you take pics of squirming kids !! Serously, please advice me on how i should start training them, as well as any tips :+) They all look so much better then this, most are much longer and more square then they look, and Surreal has her back hunched up when she is actually my most level kid - like board level, almost looks weird compared to my others ! and some the kids heads didn't even get in the picture, grrrrr... oh well i shall try again in a month or so after i learn how to train them for this and shows.

Anyways just wanted to share, and would like honest opinions on what you can tell from the awful pics :+)

This is Toy my fav pic outta all them, and still makes her look funny-
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q457 ... rm/toy.jpg

Pedigree - http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail. ... A001448070

This is Surreal - she is hunching her back in this pic, but is my most level kid - like, board level.
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q457 ... urreal.jpg

Dam - http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail. ... A001441310
sire - http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail. ... A001242590

And here is my buckling Archie - he is thick, but also longer then the pic shows as well as straighter.
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q457 ... Archie.jpg

Pedigree - http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail. ... A001448088

Then next are my three GT daughters - out of two different NOA alpine does.
GT's pedigree - http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail. ... A001112845

Reckless - my lavender girl - what pattern would this be - a lavender ____________ ? I already reg. her, just want to make sure i got it right :+) Her rump is not quite that steep.

http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q457 ... ckless.jpg

Riley is Reck's twin - she is smaller then Reck, but catching up and looking good - she is more level then she looks as well.

http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q457 ... Riley2.jpg

Last is Rogue - my oldest doeling - and usually most easy to work with - not today ! I tried the fingers on the loin thing - i got no reaction - what am i doing wrong - how do i get them to respond and look so good like all your other goats ?

http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q457 ... rogue2.jpg

Well whatta ya think of my silly pics ?
I'm also getting my other buckling in Sat. - will have to post pics of him too - here is his peg.

http://www.adgagenetics.org/GoatDetail. ... A001436017
 

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They are not so bad. I like them all but more so the one of Toy. Sometimes I just clip my goats and get "pasture pics" most of my goats are terrible for setting up, they look much better "all natural". :wink: Here's a pasture pic of one of my does. . . . just wait until they are kind of "stretched out" or reaching for something.
 

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Those are some very nice alpines!! Even though they weren't co-operating, practice makes perfect, one trick I have found that does work with the boys, wait til they stretch out to pee...but you need to have your camera handy for that one :wink:
 

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Your pasture pics look so much better then mine ! Toy is the quiet/calm one - as you can kinda tell by the pic :+)

Great idea waiting for the buck to pee - they do look "good" like that !

I really have no idea how to train them, and would like to for pics and showing next year, and really need some direction on it :+) Thanks !
 

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I always thought it was an actual pinch to make them level out. But really what you do is rub your fingers down their back on either side of their spine. They will naturally dip in one area. You have to do it firmly on some animals.

I practice doing it when they are just standing to be petted or eating hay that way when they are acting up and upset at being held still for a picture I know right where to go and they are familiar with me rubbing their back in that way
 

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That's a good idea, Stacey. I've always wondered how people got their goats to stand more "uphill". I don't think they all stand like that all the time. . . .

Yeah, definitely catch the boys when they are peeing, it really works and they look so nice! I got this one of our buckling - unfortunately he was in his pen so there's a stinkin fence in the way. . . . he couldn't have done that in the pasture. :D
 

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One thing we've found helpful in training our goats is to handle them A LOT. We always play w/ their back legs and whenever we are hanging out w/ them just stack them and make them stand still. Sometimes they will move again but I just keep placing their legs where I want them until they hold still for several seconds or longer, then give them a small treat, they should get it eventually. We start this out VERY young, even just weeks old.
 

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PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I my young doe layed down in the ring the first time and the second time she sat down like a mule. :sigh:

When I tried to set her up she totally arched her back and would NOT level out for anything. :angry:


Practice Practice practice
 

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Practice is the key. I have a doe kid who screams the WHOLE time and moves and squirms, but still took grand and best in show all the while being so naughty. It takes sometimes just a few photos and sometimes many photos to get the goat to behave and set up right.
 

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Oh I've had my fair share of yellers and screamers. I have been working with one specifically right now and she's much improved on setting up. Now with leading that's a whole other ball game. She's going to take some work to get leading down. :p
 
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