Ok, wow what another night. My daughter called and said that Hope had her babies, and one was dead. She tried to keep the dog away from the dead one, get Hope in the stall, and take care of the alive baby, all while we were under a HUGE snow storm, that hit about 5 hours early. She got Hope in a stall went int the house to get Molasses water for her, and she was going to move the truck over so I could pull in because it was in the middle of the garage. As she started the truck, she heard a thud, thud thud. She just new it was a cat. She said she could not get to the hood of the truck to open the hood, so she figured she was not suppose to see. She went back out to take care of Hope and when Hope turned around, her Placenta was hanging out, and Brenna stepped on it, and ripped it out. She was so upset with herself. First the truck, (she knew in her heart that it was cat), now the placenta. I went to the garage to check the truck and I did not see a cat at all, ( I could only get to the drivers side). Ok, now we have gotten over 2 FEET of snow in about 1-1/2 hours. We have to take the truck to the High school for my husband to get home. The roads are a nightmare :GAAH: We get in the truck and back out. thud thud thud. I went to the end of the driveway and stopped and waited for my son. I went on and then he stopped. He went out in front of the car, and picked something up, and went to the other side of the road. :mecry: YEP, it was a cat. Now my daughter is a real mess, calling herself a cat murder. Ok, later I though I would go check on Hope, and her stomach is really moving around. Great is there still a kid inside? Brenna came out with the lube and gloves and I went into Hope and I did not feel another baby but I did feel part of the placenta. Great now what do I do? Ok, I know some of you are going to say I am not at all right, but I have NEVER given my girls any antibiotics when I go into them and I have never ever had a problem, so my questions to you all is, what kind antibiotics do I give her for a partial retained placenta? :scratch: We have never lost a baby before, heck we have only lost one goat to cancer in the 8 years I have done goats, so losing two babies in one season, that is just heart breaking to us. Now Hopes dead baby was not totally formed. It had no eyes, the head was no bigger then maybe a tennis ball, and the legs were really thin. He weighted only about 1-1/2 pounds also. So I would guess that Hope was butted and it killed the baby. Sorry it is so long but wow it has been a rough couple days. We only have one more to kid, so hopefully all will be fine with her. She is a First timer. I want to thank you all for listening. That is what I love about this place, I have friends to talk to and that listens too.