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I live in NC with my wife Lisa, four cats and a dog. We are renting right now but looking to buy a house in the country soon.

Our landlord has a house next door and they have many animals on their farm.

Early Sunday morning March 12th was a very cold (33 F), rainy and windy day. Early that morning I went outside and heard the bleating of baby goats. I found two, cold, wet and shivering on the ground with afterbirth nearby and the mama goat standing by not sure what to do. Of course I knew I had to intervene or these babies would be dead within the hour.

We took them inside wrapped in warm towels and set then in a box with a blanket and a heating pad. We then warmed them with a hair dryer on low and toweled them dry. The boy and girl were in shock and close to death. In fact, the girl who is very small almost gave up. She was on her side breathing about 1 breath every 10 seconds with her neck fully extended. I know from experience that posture is NOT a good sign. I rubbed her all over and flexed her hind legs and eventually she responded and opened her eyes.

About an hour later they were lifting their heads. My wife had gone to Tractor Supply to get some feeding supplies and soon returned with a feeding bottle and some colostrum. We mixed some up and after they got warm tried to feed them. The boy eventually took some in but the girl was still too cold. Later that day we set them up with a nice warm place in our laundry room and were able to get some colostrum in both of them. We repeated the feeding every few hours a into the wee hours, getting up at 3 am to get some in them overnight. For the next day we kept a close eye on them. I'm off work this week with a cold so fortunately for the goats I've been able to be with them.

Tuesday I set up a shelter with some heat lamps securely in place overhead and lined the floor with dead leaves and a covering of hay. They spent the afternoon with mama goat who had a hard time with getting milk to flow. She was swollen with milk! I managed to work both teats, which was a struggle because she was very sensitive and not used to human contact, and get milk flowing and they both got some time on the teat. We brought them in for the night because the low temp was to be 25F. Too cold for babies!

As of last evening the boy weighs 6 lbs 3 oz and the girl weighs 4 lbs 2 oz. They've both gained several oz so that's good. The boy will bottle feed just fine but the girl remains difficult. With a lot of coaxing and finger poking in her mouth we can eventually get her to suckle but she only takes in an oz or less. She has NO problem with Mama though.

Right now she is outside with mama by herself with the boy remaining indoors for now. I want her to get some time alone so she can get some of that good mama milk with all of its antibodies into her system. They are both active and as the day warms up they are doing the usual crazy things baby goats do which makes us smile.

One more thing about mama. Yesterday I noticed that one udder was very swollen with milk and the other smaller with less milk. She was not letting them feed on that larger udder. I got hold of her and checked her teat. It had a small lump about an inch from the end so I massaged it and got milk flowing out. I checked it later and the lump was gone and milk was flowing but they still prefer the other udder.

So now I'm asking for any advice on how to proceed forward. The next week is going to be in the 20s so I'm very reluctant to leave them outside even in the shelter. Even with the heat lamps it's going to be under 40 degrees in there.

Here's a few pics to give ya'll an idea of where we're at. Thanks in advance for your help. We are determined to save these babies!

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Great job with saving babies! With mom you will have to milk out the side baby is not nursing from to avoid mastitis . Moms milk is best for babies, so the milk you get you can bottle feed back to the kid in the house. I use dog sweaters for small kids. You can try to put her out with mom during the day with her sweater and see how she holds her temp. I just picked up a bunch of sweaters at Walmart for $5 - on clearance.. hopefully that’s an option.
 

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You’ve done great! Good save!
Everything you’ve done so far has been fantastic. Are you familiar with checking a Famacha? It’s the color on the meaty part of the inner lower eye lid. simply put red is good, white is bad. It’s an indicator of a parasite overload. Most does need treatment after birth.
The doe will need lots of calories to support her growing kids. Alfalfa hay provides protein and calcium which are both very important.
As long as the kids are in a dry draft free shelter and eating well they should be ok however if you’re concerned do what you’ve been doing or put all three in a enclosed area with the heat lamp.
Babies 4 days old need to eat small amounts frequently so It’s great you’re keeping a good eye on things.
Did you dip the babies umbilical cords in iodine after you found them?
For mom keep putting the babies on both teats and hopefully they’ll figure out that there are two and keep her from getting lopsided and engorged…it’s great you caught that early. You have very good instincts
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What you've done is AMAZING! THANKYOU! Moms milk is the best. And on google the have do it yourself ideas for shelter. A heating barrel would help. A large plastc barrel with a heat lamp in the top of it, placed in front of their shelter, would keep.the shelter warm enough for them to be comfy. Its suprising how warm it can game it. Be sure and keep the electric wire away from them so they cant chew it.
The mom looks wormy. Can you ask the farmer when he wormed her & what he used? Can he run a fecal on her?
 

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All great advice!!.. good job! FYI, always prop goats up off their side. Never allowing them to lay flat when they are not well. 😉 you can use a towel rolled up and wrap around them to support them. It's ok if the head flops over..we just want to keep them some what sternum to prevent pneumonia and tummy issues.

To help kids use both teats, it takes work lol. When they go to feed..pull one to the large side..maybe the buck since hes stronger. Just keep returning him to that teat when he tries to move sister off the other.

Definitely get mom de-wormed. A good broad spectrum de warmer like Valvazen, or a sheep drench, horse paste. A few I would not bother with is safeguard as it's not very effective for most of us, any pour ons..no cydectin pour in or ivomec pour on. Niether are effective for internal worms when. Poured on and given orally has its own risks. When you have a de wormer..let us know what it is and we will help with goat dosage.

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Could the mom have stepped on baby or did baby get leg caught in something? Mom looks very thin with a rough coat and if she hasn’t been well cared for it’s possible for a worm bloom to crop up after the stress of giving birth.
It's possible Mom stepped on her. Yesterday she was hopping around early in the day. Later when I brought them inside is when I noticed her not stepping on it. I'll have to watch her. The farmer is currently away. He has a young couple that comes by to feed everyone. When he's back I'll ask about worming.
 

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Have you been able to feel baby girls leg to check if you can feel a break?
Hopefully it’s just sprained and it can heal while she’s packing it. But if you feel a break, she will need it splinted and wrapped.
At least babies bones heal quickly while they’re growing so much!
Yes I've checked it and no breaks. The joints flex fine with no discomfort. Probably got bruised by mama or she just tweaked it jumping around. I saw her do some crazy jumps yesterday that ended in her falling over, all four legs in the air. Quite comical!

Lisa and I milked Mama this evening and got 4 oz. from the big udder. It's in a jar in the frig. She really needed that. It was pretty big.

Buck and doe are in the house for the night. Mama did not like them being taken away which I read as a good thing. She's bonded well now.

Oh and their eyes look good. (y)
 

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Earlier today I put out some alfalfa pellets mixed with crushed corn for the mama goat. I noticed the buck nosing around in it a bit at one point. I didn't think much of it but now I realize if he ate some of that it could be that he now has a bit of bloat especially since the left side is distended.

So, after a bit of research here this evening I mixed up three quarters of a teaspoon of baking soda with 8 oz of water shook it up very well and got about an ounce and a half of that liquid into him. Hopefully that helps break up the foamy bubbles and he can burp or pass gas out the other end not sure which. About 15 minutes after that he did poop a little bit. Hope he's going to be okay. If he's still having problems in the morning off to the vet we go.

The fun just never stops! 😉
 

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As I mentioned this week has been all about researching and learning about goats. I just read this evening that when they're in distress they tend to lean against the wall or push their head against the wall. Earlier he was doing that against the cardboard box they've been sleeping in and looked very uncomfortable and in distress.

I just went in and checked on him about 15 minutes after I gave him the baking soda water and he's now lying down on his belly with his feet tucked under him. He's still breathing rapidly making grunt noises but he looks a bit more comfortable.
 
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