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I live in NC with my wife Lisa, four cats and a dog. We are renting right now but looking to buy a house in the country soon.

Our landlord has a house next door and they have many animals on their farm.

Early Sunday morning March 12th was a very cold (33 F), rainy and windy day. Early that morning I went outside and heard the bleating of baby goats. I found two, cold, wet and shivering on the ground with afterbirth nearby and the mama goat standing by not sure what to do. Of course I knew I had to intervene or these babies would be dead within the hour.

We took them inside wrapped in warm towels and set then in a box with a blanket and a heating pad. We then warmed them with a hair dryer on low and toweled them dry. The boy and girl were in shock and close to death. In fact, the girl who is very small almost gave up. She was on her side breathing about 1 breath every 10 seconds with her neck fully extended. I know from experience that posture is NOT a good sign. I rubbed her all over and flexed her hind legs and eventually she responded and opened her eyes.

About an hour later they were lifting their heads. My wife had gone to Tractor Supply to get some feeding supplies and soon returned with a feeding bottle and some colostrum. We mixed some up and after they got warm tried to feed them. The boy eventually took some in but the girl was still too cold. Later that day we set them up with a nice warm place in our laundry room and were able to get some colostrum in both of them. We repeated the feeding every few hours a into the wee hours, getting up at 3 am to get some in them overnight. For the next day we kept a close eye on them. I'm off work this week with a cold so fortunately for the goats I've been able to be with them.

Tuesday I set up a shelter with some heat lamps securely in place overhead and lined the floor with dead leaves and a covering of hay. They spent the afternoon with mama goat who had a hard time with getting milk to flow. She was swollen with milk! I managed to work both teats, which was a struggle because she was very sensitive and not used to human contact, and get milk flowing and they both got some time on the teat. We brought them in for the night because the low temp was to be 25F. Too cold for babies!

As of last evening the boy weighs 6 lbs 3 oz and the girl weighs 4 lbs 2 oz. They've both gained several oz so that's good. The boy will bottle feed just fine but the girl remains difficult. With a lot of coaxing and finger poking in her mouth we can eventually get her to suckle but she only takes in an oz or less. She has NO problem with Mama though.

Right now she is outside with mama by herself with the boy remaining indoors for now. I want her to get some time alone so she can get some of that good mama milk with all of its antibodies into her system. They are both active and as the day warms up they are doing the usual crazy things baby goats do which makes us smile.

One more thing about mama. Yesterday I noticed that one udder was very swollen with milk and the other smaller with less milk. She was not letting them feed on that larger udder. I got hold of her and checked her teat. It had a small lump about an inch from the end so I massaged it and got milk flowing out. I checked it later and the lump was gone and milk was flowing but they still prefer the other udder.

So now I'm asking for any advice on how to proceed forward. The next week is going to be in the 20s so I'm very reluctant to leave them outside even in the shelter. Even with the heat lamps it's going to be under 40 degrees in there.

Here's a few pics to give ya'll an idea of where we're at. Thanks in advance for your help. We are determined to save these babies!

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Thanks y'all. I'm curious what the visual indicator is that Mom looks wormy.

I've noticed the little dough in the last 24 hours does not want to step on her left rear leg. Any idea what that's about?
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Could the mom have stepped on baby or did baby get leg caught in something? Mom looks very thin with a rough coat and if she hasn’t been well cared for it’s possible for a worm bloom to crop up after the stress of giving birth.
It's possible Mom stepped on her. Yesterday she was hopping around early in the day. Later when I brought them inside is when I noticed her not stepping on it. I'll have to watch her. The farmer is currently away. He has a young couple that comes by to feed everyone. When he's back I'll ask about worming.
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Have you been able to feel baby girls leg to check if you can feel a break?
Hopefully it’s just sprained and it can heal while she’s packing it. But if you feel a break, she will need it splinted and wrapped.
At least babies bones heal quickly while they’re growing so much!
Yes I've checked it and no breaks. The joints flex fine with no discomfort. Probably got bruised by mama or she just tweaked it jumping around. I saw her do some crazy jumps yesterday that ended in her falling over, all four legs in the air. Quite comical!

Lisa and I milked Mama this evening and got 4 oz. from the big udder. It's in a jar in the frig. She really needed that. It was pretty big.

Buck and doe are in the house for the night. Mama did not like them being taken away which I read as a good thing. She's bonded well now.

Oh and their eyes look good. (y)
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This evening the buck making a small grunting noise on every breath. I noticed it a few times today but tonight it's constant. Could it be bloat? I noticed when I tap on the goats left side it has a hollow sound and it does seem a little bloated.
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Earlier today I put out some alfalfa pellets mixed with crushed corn for the mama goat. I noticed the buck nosing around in it a bit at one point. I didn't think much of it but now I realize if he ate some of that it could be that he now has a bit of bloat especially since the left side is distended.

So, after a bit of research here this evening I mixed up three quarters of a teaspoon of baking soda with 8 oz of water shook it up very well and got about an ounce and a half of that liquid into him. Hopefully that helps break up the foamy bubbles and he can burp or pass gas out the other end not sure which. About 15 minutes after that he did poop a little bit. Hope he's going to be okay. If he's still having problems in the morning off to the vet we go.

The fun just never stops! 😉
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As I mentioned this week has been all about researching and learning about goats. I just read this evening that when they're in distress they tend to lean against the wall or push their head against the wall. Earlier he was doing that against the cardboard box they've been sleeping in and looked very uncomfortable and in distress.

I just went in and checked on him about 15 minutes after I gave him the baking soda water and he's now lying down on his belly with his feet tucked under him. He's still breathing rapidly making grunt noises but he looks a bit more comfortable.
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Just checked on him. He's lying down now with his sister curled up next to him, respiration rate has slowed down a little and the grunting noises are almost gone. I'm relieved to see this. Maybe I can get some sleep now lol.
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Morning ya'll. Baby buck is not good. He's in obvious discomfort, leaning against his box, pressing his head against things. Doe is ok, out with mama getting breakfast.

I'm going to take him to a vet at 9:30. They treat livestock so they should be able to help.
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If you can get permission from the folks that feed, I would go ahead and worm her. She is in pretty bad shape, and we dont want her going downhill and not producing well if having serious problems.
I contacted the farmer and he said he deworms every three months. Last time was 3 weeks ago.
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Let us know what the vet says.
Will do.
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Vet said little buck had pneumonia. Too weak to treat. Euthanized. :cry:
Vet said they are definitely premature. Incisors have not poked through the gums.

The little doe is indoors. The plan forward is to take her out to Mama for some feeding every few hours then bring her back inside. Also plan to bring her in at night due to very low temps forecast over this weekend.
Starting Monday, she'll have to be left with Mama outside in their shelter with a heat lamp. I have to go back to work so we'll just leave her with Mama and hope for the best. Still plan on bringing her in at night. The owner will be back next weekend at which point I'll hand them both off to him.
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Thank you all for the support. We still have the little doe. She's looking good. Gotta keep her fed from mama goat, warm and dry. ;)
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Snowflake (yes I named her) looks good this morning. She made three poops! I take that as a good sign. Milk is getting processed! (y)

She's outside with mama having breakfast in the shelter with heat lamps. It's in the 30s this morning but it should warm to the mid 40s after noon. Mama was on our back porch waiting for me to bring her out.

I tried getting her to bottle feed some mama milk last night and this morning but she just wouldn't take it. She was interested, but wouldn't latch onto the nipple. I tried all the tricks but no go. She'll suckle on Mama though so she went to bed with the meal she had from mama a couple hours earlier.

It's going to be a cold weekend. Monday forecast is temps in the teens in the morning. Lisa and I are going to see if we can add another tarp to the shelter to help keep drafts out. Mama has gotten used to it which is good. I have to go back to work Monday but my job allows me to go in later if I want. I'll probably wait until 7- 8am to take Snowflake outside.

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For those wondering, she's 3/4 Lamancha and 1/4 Saanen. A good dairy goat.
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Just brought Snowflake inside for the night after a 4 minute meal on mamas teat. She weighs 4 lbs 7 oz. up 3 oz. from yesterday. In the past four days she's gained 6 oz.
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That isn't the best but at this point any gain is good.
That's my thought as well. Being premature, she's having to finish developing her body outside the womb. Vet said they were probably born 2 weeks early. It's amazing she's still alive.

If she can get through this week, I think she has a good chance of survival. Fingers crossed. 🤞
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Pretty goats I hope the doeling stays healthy
Me too. Trying so hard to save her. Still very touch and go.
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