OK, Let me give you a quick history on Hope. She is 4 years old and she is the one that I pulled from mom 20 hours after her brother and sister were born. She was not alive but out of anger I kind of threw her hard on the floor and that did start her back up. She is the only bottle baby I have ever had. She had no sack or placenta when I pulled her. How was she alive? Only by the Grace of God. She stunk like rotten flesh. Anyway. OK she was bred at a year old and I had no idea at all that she had been bred. Well she aborted the fetus, (wow that was scary when you have no idea that she was pregnant and she had this black thing hanging from her). This was before I met these great groups. Anyway, so she was fine after that. Then she was bred 5 months later, and she had twins (doe and Buck) that were perfect and fine. That is when she was 2 years old. Then last year she was bred and she had twin boys again. OK all fine Except one was born well I can not say deformed but it looked like he died I do not know a while before they were ready to be born. He had hair but was REALLY small, like not even a pound. The other one was just fine and we still have him now. OK yesterday she kidded again and she had again a dead one that was a little bigger then the dead one last year. It might of been 1-1/2 to 2 pounds. But the other Buck is fine. Does anyone have any ideas about this? I have Never had this happen to any other doe but her. She is fed the same hay and feed that everyone else id fed, she is not the queen (her mom is), but she in not on the bottom either, I would say closer to the top of the to tum post in regards to the pecking order. I do understand that she could of been butted and that killed the baby but two years in a row, and one that is the one that is butting most of the time? Thanks for your help.