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First off, the dog (a pet) is tied and confined, waiting to be picked up. We had severe storms all night and it looks like it set him off. Our LGD was in the house at the time and couldn't get out until after the damage was done, and pulling him off the dog was no easy task. We don't want to take him to the vet, as it's literally a choice between that and homelessness (using the small vet fund to help with that).

Toki has suffered deep gashes to the face, ears and neck. Most of it appears to be superficial, but there's a particularly deep one just behind the right nostril and an inch below the left ear. He's currently laying down with his eyes closed. He won't respond to touch or sound. His head's up, he's breathing steadily, but he is completely out of it. We have him in a large, dark dog house for now, with a door in front of it to keep the others from bothering him.

Treating the injuries isn't a problem, but what are the odds he'll even pull through this one? Is there even a point or should we just put him down? I feel horrible for this happening. I never trusted the dog, but he was always tied up and unable to reach them.
 

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He is stressed...get a temp on him..if its under 100 he is going into shock..wrap him in blankets to keep his body warm.....give him a large Dose of B complex and a shot of Banamine for the pain...treat his wounds and try to comfort him..
 

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Dogs can be tough. I have a 9 year old Bichon who is about 10 pounds, and I *had* a Great Dane. The Dane almot killed Eddie (bichon) twice. The first time he had a punctured lung and cracked ribs, and needed a vet. The second time he got his chest ripped open, the sin was literally hanging, and he seemed out of it for a few days too. We couldn't afford the vet this time around. I cleaned and disinfected the wounds, bandaged him up and gave him soft food and baby/pet aspirin. He pulled through! The shock is probably your biggest concern. Keep him warm and dry and just watch him. I would play a 24 hour wait and see before I just put him down. I'm so sorry for Toki! Hope you have great success in pulling him through this!
 

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I'm so sorry this happened to you. I had a LGD we had with our herd go after a boer kid we had and pin him to the ground. There was no wounds to the goat but the poor thing had been ran to death. He quickly got a barber pole worm infestation and died within two weeks. I think it is really hard on a goat and the stress just throws their whole body off. I hope your goat pulls through as every situation and every goat is different. I would say do as much as you can to give him a reason to live. Spend time with him. I would give him probios, vit B complex, CD antitoxin and keep check his temp and eye color.
 

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Guys, keep in mind it was a pet dog that was injured by the LGD, not a goat. I'm not sure if the treatment would be different ... I would keep him warm, flush the wounds, comfort him. Can dogs have any sort of human pain-killer?
 

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I'm so sorry this happened to you. I had a LGD we had with our herd go after a boer kid we had and pin him to the ground. There was no wounds to the goat but the poor thing had been ran to death. He quickly got a barber pole worm infestation and died within two weeks. I think it is really hard on a goat and the stress just throws their whole body off. I hope your goat pulls through as every situation and every goat is different. I would say do as much as you can to give him a reason to live. Spend time with him. I would give him probios, vit B complex, CD antitoxin and keep check his temp and eye color.
I think I read this all wrong, I'm sorry. It was a dog that is injured?! I was assuming it was a goat. I'm sorry.
 

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Guys, keep in mind it was a pet dog that was injured by the LGD, not a goat. I'm not sure if the treatment would be different ... I would keep him warm, flush the wounds, comfort him. Can dogs have any sort of human pain-killer?
Yes. My mother used to raise dogs and she would give them both IB profen and Tylenol. Usually liquid form for children. Don't know of a dose however.
 

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Im thinking it was a goat as well..the LGD was in the house and unable to get to the goat..until later in which he attacked the dog onthe goat??? hoepfully she pops back on to clear up the misunderstanding :) either way B complex will help with stress
 

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Oh, it was a goat? I'm sorry, I thought it was a dog. Or both? Maybe the pet dog attacked the goat (who was injured), and the livestock dog chased the pet dog away.
 

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hopefully dog or goat..he willbe ok : )
 

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Nope, it's the goat (the one who is still in recovery from the last incident with the boarders from hell, pardon my french). He's Magnum's wether buddy. I mentioned the LGD (half wolf) because the second he was able to get to him, he ripped into the other dog, likely keeping Toki from being killed outright.

We have children's Tylenol, but I'm a little wary on giving it with how much he's bleeding.
 

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dont use tylenol..its not good for goats..reg. asprin is fine but as you said..if he is bleeding a lot..I would wait...
Have you gotton a temp on him? Any B complex??
 

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Ah, sorry about that! I assumed it was the dog, then I read dog crate. :laugh: So sorry about your goat. Does the other dog need care as well?
 

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The dog is fine. Minor cuts and bruising. Toki was up so we shoved him outside to get a better look. His nose is split open from one corner of his mouth to the other, his ear is half skinned, he's bleeding from two points on his neck, and his back left hock is completely skinned with a hunk about 3" hanging off. The tendon is ok, he's putting weight on it and can get up just fine, though laying down is a five minute struggle. His temp is 103.1, he's responding well to touch and voice and didn't flinch when I put paste on most of the cuts. He'll be on antibiotics and Probios for the next week with crushed B vitamin tablets daily. Aside from being shaken up, he looks like he'll be ok.
 

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sounds like you have it well in hand...glad he is up..poor guy needs some extra loving
 

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I sat with him for a little bit, he just sneezed, groaned and shoved his forehead into me.

My roommate wants to try herbal treatments, is there a full list of what they can and can't have? Snakeroot was the first thing she wants to try, since we only have Tylenol.

I'm thinking of locking him into his hut for the day, more severe storms are expected all afternoon. He's wrapped in towels and has a couple to lay on, though he keeps shoving them aside to park it in the mud.
 

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Oh gosh I am so sorry this happened to him :( I'd definitely get him on some kind of antibiotic if he were mine. I'd clean his wounds well with something to kill bad germs. I'm no pro though, but that would be my first thing, and to get the bleeding stopped. Is he still bleeding badly?

Sounds like the dog that did this needs to be rehomed, or evaluated for safety and a decision made.
I'm sorry, I love dogs, but the second a dog attacks an animal that 'belongs' is the second I have to make a decision on that dogs future. Once they get a taste for blood... :(
 

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If you want to try herbal, I would go to Molly's Herbal or Fir Meadow, they have experience with herbal goat remedies. They may even be able to help you over email, but I'm not sure on that point. I would put down lots of bedding for the silly boy if he is camping in the mud! My Lamancha is the same way, she is so messy and always sleeps in her mess. My Nigerians always poop in a corner and stay meticulously clean. :p

I agree with hoosiershadow with the antibiotics. Couple it with some probios.
 
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