You need to snip the pizzle. You need to feel along the urethra and see if you feel stones. Fruit Fresh from the grocery store can be used.
Renal calculi
Needing emergency advice. Jack Jack (our Nigerian weather) appears to be trying to pass a kidney stone.
His symptoms: Elongated stance as if trying to pee but nothing coming out. Head down. Shaking mildly. Area between the back and rump (just over the hip bones) is sunken in on both sides. No signs of bloat.
He was fine this morning but didn't come eat at dinner. We weren't home during the day so unsure of when this might have started. We've called our vet and left a message but it's a Saturday evening and no telling if she will get back to us anytime soon. There isn't a farm store around that carries ammonium chloride.
Is there another place to get ammonium chloride? If he isn't peeing at all will it still help? If I can't get the vet out, how long can he last? I don't want to put him down but if this is in fact a renal calculi and we can't get help I don't want him to suffer.
We did have some meloxicam left over from a previous goat injury and gave him this for pain. Hopefully this will help temporarily.
Any advice? Will post pics in a bit.
- Nicole
His symptoms: Elongated stance as if trying to pee but nothing coming out. Head down. Shaking mildly. Area between the back and rump (just over the hip bones) is sunken in on both sides. No signs of bloat.
He was fine this morning but didn't come eat at dinner. We weren't home during the day so unsure of when this might have started. We've called our vet and left a message but it's a Saturday evening and no telling if she will get back to us anytime soon. There isn't a farm store around that carries ammonium chloride.
Is there another place to get ammonium chloride? If he isn't peeing at all will it still help? If I can't get the vet out, how long can he last? I don't want to put him down but if this is in fact a renal calculi and we can't get help I don't want him to suffer.
We did have some meloxicam left over from a previous goat injury and gave him this for pain. Hopefully this will help temporarily.
Any advice? Will post pics in a bit.
- Nicole
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Any particular fruits?You need to snip the pizzle. You need to feel along the urethra and see if you feel stones. Fruit Fresh from the grocery store can be used.
The powder named Fruit Fresh. Should be around the canning supplies.
Thank you for the support, after getting hold of the vet and telling her how far along his symptoms were, they said the diagnosis was not going to be good. We live in a remote area and the cost to get him in for surgery at a place about 2+ hours away was going to be about a $1,000. We had to make the choice no farmer wants to make and put him to rest. So please raise a glass tonight for Jack Jack, the 4-year-old wether who likes to give kisses.💙
Oh I'm so sorry that's not an easy decision 
Oh thats a shame im sorry for your loss
So very sorry
I am so sorry.
The heartache of loosing a dear friend is terrible. It's the gift and curse of having the responsibility to choose.
For future reference... we have had no luck with ammonium chloride. We have saved bucks at the FIRST SIGN of dribbling or straining urination with Methigel, a tom cat medicine available on Amazon. We give a dose the length of my index finger for 3 days, then half that for 1 day. Along, of course, with plenty of fresh clean water.
Secondly, urinary calculi are usually diet, indufficient water consumption or genetically related. If you don't feed a diet of 3 parts total calcium in the food to 1 part phosphorus, urinary calculi in males is a risk. Our calculi have always been phosphorus. Usually due to grain composition and too little water consumed particularly in winter. Not ever due to alfalfa.
Here is a diagram of the male urinary system. Easy to see the many catch points.
For future reference... we have had no luck with ammonium chloride. We have saved bucks at the FIRST SIGN of dribbling or straining urination with Methigel, a tom cat medicine available on Amazon. We give a dose the length of my index finger for 3 days, then half that for 1 day. Along, of course, with plenty of fresh clean water.
Secondly, urinary calculi are usually diet, indufficient water consumption or genetically related. If you don't feed a diet of 3 parts total calcium in the food to 1 part phosphorus, urinary calculi in males is a risk. Our calculi have always been phosphorus. Usually due to grain composition and too little water consumed particularly in winter. Not ever due to alfalfa.
Here is a diagram of the male urinary system. Easy to see the many catch points.
Caprine Urolithiasis – Sawchyn Medical Illustration
www.sawchynmi.com
The heartache of loosing a dear friend is terrible. It's the gift and curse of having the responsibility to choose.
For future reference... we have had no luck with ammonium chloride. We have saved bucks at the FIRST SIGN of dribbling or straining urination with Methigel, a tom cat medicine available on Amazon. We give a dose the length of my index finger for 3 days, then half that for 1 day. Along, of course, with plenty of fresh clean water.
Secondly, urinary calculi are usually diet, indufficient water consumption or genetically related. If you don't feed a diet of 3 parts total calcium in the food to 1 part phosphorus, urinary calculi in males is a risk. Our calculi have always been phosphorus. Usually due to grain composition and too little water consumed particularly in winter. Not ever due to alfalfa.
Here is a diagram of the male urinary system. Easy to see the many catch points.
Caprine Urolithiasis – Sawchyn Medical Illustration
www.sawchynmi.com
Thank you! So our guy was just a weed eater. No special diet but forage, free choice hay, and minerals. We gave him about 1/4 oats daily and I'm wondering if that's what did it. We've done that with our other goats no problem. However, the grasses in the field are ripening so the natural grains available are high, and with the oats wondering if that's too much.The heartache of loosing a dear friend is terrible. It's the gift and curse of having the responsibility to choose.
For future reference... we have had no luck with ammonium chloride. We have saved bucks at the FIRST SIGN of dribbling or straining urination with Methigel, a tom cat medicine available on Amazon. We give a dose the length of my index finger for 3 days, then half that for 1 day. Along, of course, with plenty of fresh clean water.
Secondly, urinary calculi are usually diet, indufficient water consumption or genetically related. If you don't feed a diet of 3 parts total calcium in the food to 1 part phosphorus, urinary calculi in males is a risk. Our calculi have always been phosphorus. Usually due to grain composition and too little water consumed particularly in winter. Not ever due to alfalfa.
Here is a diagram of the male urinary system. Easy to see the many catch points.
Caprine Urolithiasis – Sawchyn Medical Illustration
www.sawchynmi.com
We are transitioning to meat goats and are stopping grain for the rest of the crew unless it's treat time for hoof trimming. I'm new to goats and signed up for a goat class next month. Hopefully this will help give me more understanding of how to be a better goat mom.
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