Okay so I had started asking about selenium E Gel in another post in the goat management section. But I wanted to start a topic here in case it can help anyone else too, because I think I 'may' have a kid who is deficient. We don't have BoSe, so our month old kids haven't gotten it yet. Hubby started a new job getting paid biweekly so he just got his first full paycheck and we planned to order the selenium e gel since nobody around here sells it. Well...doesn't this figure... I think my month old buckling has a deficiency. He looks weak in the back end, hunched up, and he's been shivering. He was shivering last night, but once I bedded them down for the night he was fine. This morning, he was shivering, so I put a sweater on him before turning him out ---at noon--- and it was up to 38 today...so not bitterly cold. He seemed okay after that, no shivering, but he just didn't 'look' right. He didn't act sick either, just....slow, if that makes sense. I can't get the selenium e gel until next week. So while I made a quick errand to town I picked up selenium tablets at the dollar store. I read on a website you can give them 1 selenium tablet <200mcg>, and 1 vitamin e gel cap. This afternoon, when I went out to give it to him, he was shivering, so I wrapped him up in a thick towel, and gave him the selenium/vit e diluted in warm water w/pancake syrup. I don't recommend using a syringe...LOL It's hard to get the tablet in them without it squishing to the syringe.... I think I only got half of it in him...but most of the vitamin e gel. I recommend putting the vit e gel cap down the back of their throat as I think I've read others have done this somewhere... and I recommend crushing the selenium tablet, mixing it in a tiny bit of warm pancake syrup, and feeding it on a spoon, or if they won't eat it, put it on your finger and stick it down the back of their mouth/throat... Okay so I did that. He's shivering pretty good despite being bundled up, so I take his temp. 102.9 which I believe would be borderlining a fever <I can NEVER remeber what is normal for a goat AHHH!!!!!> But seemed high to me. Just in case we're not dealing with a deficiency, and with him shivering like he was, I became brave, grabbed the medicine journal I am trying to start....got the correct dosages and gave him: banamine penG I gave the banamine and waited a half hour and gave him the pen G. I plugged in the heat lamp and kept it high enough just to help keep the chill off of him, plus so I could see to observe him... He seemed to perk up, and stopped shivering! But still looks weak on the backend. Tail down. I brought the mineral bucket into the stall, and he was gobbling it up! He does NOT eat grain, but he does LOVE alfalfa and as soon as I got him in the stall he was munching. He seems fine other than the shivering and seeming weak on the back end. My instincts are screaming selenium deficiency... Do you think I am wrong? And if you think I should use a different method of treatment please let me know. I trust the opinions here more than anyone else, because you all know what you are doing and what works. BTW, the doeling is showing no signs of problems. She eats almost a handful of grain a day - divided into 2 feedings. However, I wonder if I should at least give her half of a tablet? Also, would it be good to give mama a selenium tablet too? I don't want to risk overdosing. She does get a lot of grain, and I do have loose mineral out where they can all get it during the day <But I am going to make it more accessible for the kids while they are in their stall...> I should have selenium e gel by this time next week, I am finishing my order TONIGHT. Thanks for any advice, and I hope this might help anyone else who doesn't have access to BoSe.