Sound like coccidia or pregnancy toxemia or something else???
Sick pregnant goat!!
So its been raining here all day so I didn't go out early this morning . I waited until rain slowed down enough to feed them. One of my pregnant pygmy does is obviously very sick. She's standing kind of hunched back, very watery and stinky diarrhea . And I believe I seen blood tinted urine or either poop she did both at the same time so I can't be positive . She looks like she's lost a ton of weight over night and her eyes look sunk in. Standing away from the herd and also won't eat ????
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It does sound like coccidia. I have had this multiple times and what I use when my goats get it is Di-Methox (or Sulfadimethoxine). But I just go by Di-Methox Soluble Powder, of which I use as follows:
Soluble Powder mixed as follows: dissolve one package (107 gms) in three cups of water. Keep refrigerated. Administer/Drench directly into mouth
Dose:
Give Orally - Administer straight into the mouth using a syringe (remove the needle).
Five day treatment- you must treat the full five days. (we have begun experimenting with only treating three days for the prevention treatment.)
Day one: 1 ml per 5 pounds- given orally.
Days 2-5: 1 ml per 10 pounds- given orally.
And I don't know if this would be safe for a pregnant doe, but if my goat that was sick didn't start seeming better within 3 hours or so (or started getting substantially worse within the next hour) I'd add a second of the first day dosage. And we also had to give another third to her once, because she still wasn't getting better, but I wouldn't recommend that (unless otherwise stated here).
But you need to get to her soon. Also, I'd separate her from the herd and isolate her in a dry spot IF possible. I always do this so that the heavy amount of coccidia isn't spread to everyone else (it is precaution to me)
Please keep me updated. I feel for anyone who's animal is going through this. Deeply. Good luck.
EDIT: Just to make sure you know, because I didn't at one point, a 1 mL is the same as 1cc
Soluble Powder mixed as follows: dissolve one package (107 gms) in three cups of water. Keep refrigerated. Administer/Drench directly into mouth
Dose:
Give Orally - Administer straight into the mouth using a syringe (remove the needle).
Five day treatment- you must treat the full five days. (we have begun experimenting with only treating three days for the prevention treatment.)
Day one: 1 ml per 5 pounds- given orally.
Days 2-5: 1 ml per 10 pounds- given orally.
And I don't know if this would be safe for a pregnant doe, but if my goat that was sick didn't start seeming better within 3 hours or so (or started getting substantially worse within the next hour) I'd add a second of the first day dosage. And we also had to give another third to her once, because she still wasn't getting better, but I wouldn't recommend that (unless otherwise stated here).
But you need to get to her soon. Also, I'd separate her from the herd and isolate her in a dry spot IF possible. I always do this so that the heavy amount of coccidia isn't spread to everyone else (it is precaution to me)
Please keep me updated. I feel for anyone who's animal is going through this. Deeply. Good luck.
EDIT: Just to make sure you know, because I didn't at one point, a 1 mL is the same as 1cc
What color is her poop?? Dark brown to black is usually worm issue , green tint could be dietary...you say its been raining, could be she ate too much wet graze..upsets her rumen...
take her temp...10.5-103.5 is normal range...
check for anemia
Give her cd antitoxin ...Pepto to help sooth her tummy and dry her runs, probios to help restore flora, electrolytes to encourage drinking, hay/alfalfa and green leaves only until she berries up...
take her temp...10.5-103.5 is normal range...
check for anemia
Give her cd antitoxin ...Pepto to help sooth her tummy and dry her runs, probios to help restore flora, electrolytes to encourage drinking, hay/alfalfa and green leaves only until she berries up...
I have toltrazuril for coccidia and I just gave her some of that. She has sued down since I posted and won't get up unless I make her which is not her usual behavior. She's normally skittish but just lays there and doesn't try to get away. Also usually I can feel the baby move. I can easily feel the kid but can't get it to move at all. I'm worried that it has died. She's due sometime this
do you have cd antitoxin??
Poop was dark brown and runny like water and smelled terrible. My goats don't leave the barn when it rains at all by their choice so i dont think its from wet graze . I'll go get a tempWhat color is her poop?? Dark brown to black is usually worm issue , green tint could be dietary...you say its been raining, could be she ate too much wet graze..upsets her rumen...
take her temp...10.5-103.5 is normal range...
check for anemia
Give her cd antitoxin ...Pepto to help sooth her tummy and dry her runs, probios to help restore flora, electrolytes to encourage drinking, hay/alfalfa and green leaves only until she berries up...
No I don't have cd antitoxin. Was planning to order some when I order wormers next weekdo you have cd antitoxin??
I have tried to find some to have on hand but everybody tries to sell me cd&t.
Smelly dark poop could very well be cocci..the baycox should help but she still needs the cd antitoxin.pepto,probios and electrolytes...
You can use Milk of magnesia instead of the cd antitoxin ...15 cc per 60#..Dark smelly stool can also be enterotoxemia...it wont get her dry but it will help bind the toxin inher gut..this is most important...keep her hydrated through this
cocci and worms are very opportunistic.....they like to invade when a goat is not feeling well!...
Her temp is 104.4
I have dumor electrolytes supplement powder how much do I need to give her how often?
It a bit elevated...OTC Antibiotics of choice Tylan 200 1 cc per 25# every 12 hours for 5-7 days..Nuflor is a good RX antibiotic and safe for pregnant does..
start the MOM right away...along with the Probios and electrolytes
start the MOM right away...along with the Probios and electrolytes
Fix a gallon of the electrolytes and keep if fresh daily..also offer fresh water in case she rather than it...here is a home made electrolyte as well
Homemade Electrolytes
A half gallon of hot water
2-6 Tablespoons of Unsulphured Blackstrap Molasses or what ever molasses or honey you have on hand
1-2 Tablespoons of Either Sea Salt, Epsom Salt, Baking Soda or Table Salt.
1 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar
Mix well and drench or let them drink it.
Homemade Electrolytes
A half gallon of hot water
2-6 Tablespoons of Unsulphured Blackstrap Molasses or what ever molasses or honey you have on hand
1-2 Tablespoons of Either Sea Salt, Epsom Salt, Baking Soda or Table Salt.
1 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar
Mix well and drench or let them drink it.
I have the tylan an mom and will give her that nowIt a bit elevated...OTC Antibiotics of choice Tylan 200 1 cc per 25# every 12 hours for 5-7 days..Nuflor is a good RX antibiotic and safe for pregnant does..
start the MOM right away...along with the Probios and electrolytes
I've had her for a couple months .the lady told me that she had been wormed with herbal wormer so I haven't wormed her yet. Should I go ahead and worm her also? Lids are light pink
Unless she is a 4-5 on the famancha chart I would get her through this first so not to taxed her system...Then once she is on the mend I would worm her with Ivomec plus..Other wise yes..treat now...a 4-5 on the chart is dangerous..
http://goat-link.com/content/view/110/107/#.UnQulZRxte4
http://goat-link.com/content/view/110/107/#.UnQulZRxte4
She's like a 4. I don't have ivomec plus. I have ivomec and safeguard . Also have red cell for anemia. When I went out to give the MOM and tylan she was grinding her teeth a little and still layingUnless she is a 4-5 on the famancha chart I would get her through this first so not to taxed her system...Then once she is on the mend I would worm her with Ivomec plus..Other wise yes..treat now...a 4-5 on the chart is dangerous..
http://goat-link.com/content/view/110/107/#.UnQulZRxte4
Ok..a 4 warrants worming...use the ivomec..safeguard doesnt work well any more..
if this is injectable 1 cc per 40 sub Q or if you prefere oral, I believe the dose is 1 cc per 30 #...
Grinding teeth is gut pain..the MOM should help..it takes time...keep her comfortable and hydrated
Red cell is 6 cc per 100#
vit B 12 shot ot B complex PLUS...
poor girl is going to feel like a dumping ground for meds But what ever needs to be done....
keep electros and hay where she can get to them without getting up for now..green leaves as well
if this is injectable 1 cc per 40 sub Q or if you prefere oral, I believe the dose is 1 cc per 30 #...
Grinding teeth is gut pain..the MOM should help..it takes time...keep her comfortable and hydrated
Red cell is 6 cc per 100#
vit B 12 shot ot B complex PLUS...
poor girl is going to feel like a dumping ground for meds
But what ever needs to be done....keep electros and hay where she can get to them without getting up for now..green leaves as well
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