Skin disease? Please help.

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Bill C, Jan 19, 2021.

  1. Bill C

    Bill C New Member

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    Jan 18, 2021
    Saskatchewan
    Recently began raising goats. We love them and do all we can to keep them healthy and happy. One of our young breeding males (Ozzy) is such a character. But he has recently developed some bumps around both nostrils. They aren't open or weepy. They aren't sore at all and don't seem to bother him in any way. They are hairless and look basically like bald, irregular bumps of relatively normal seeming skin around the lower edge and sides of his nostrils. Of course we are watching and hoping it doesn't become worse for the poor fellow, but anything people can share that may have experienced this would be greatly appreciated. If its something that progresses we want to catch and treat asap. Plus learn for the health and well being of all our animals. Thank you all in advance. (Pic attached)
     

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  2. groovyoldlady

    groovyoldlady Goat Crazy!

    Jul 21, 2011
    Central Maine
    Hmm, my first thought from your description was a staph infection. But that doesn't look like staph to me. Just from the photo I would guess sore mouth. But I don't have any experience with that...
     

  3. Bill C

    Bill C New Member

    5
    Jan 18, 2021
    Saskatchewan
    Thank you for that input. We will isolate him and monitor just in case. I can't find info or pics of "early stage" sore mouth. It doesn't quite seem to fit as it stands.
     
  4. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki

    Is he rubbing his nose on something? Do you give a good loose mineral? Maybe adding zinc to his diet might help? Is there a sticker or something irritating in there possibly?

    If it were sore mouth i would think that it would have progressed more by now and someone else would also have it. And if my brain is remembering correctly sore mouth looks like fever blisters pretty much.
     
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  5. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    Is he peeing on his face a lot? I would suspect urine scald, but it doesn't exactly look like that either.
     
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  6. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Ive never dealt with it. But Ill share my college info on it with you. 16111135225455292714420426039572.jpg 16111135605871421491946893236250.jpg
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    Hope this helps
     
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  7. Caileigh Jane Smith

    Caileigh Jane Smith Well-Known Member

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    Dec 1, 2019
    Missouri, USA
    It looks like he may have some baldness around his eyes, too? If so, I would suspect that he may have a copper deficiency. I have never heard of copper deficiency causing issues like the bumps around his mouth, but I know that copper does boost their immune system, so low copper levels could make him more susceptible to other issues.
    I have learned to watch for zinc deficiency in bucks. I don't know whether it's just a deficiency in my soil, but I have a buck who struggles with zinc deficiency. His manifests in a general lethargy, a hunched up stance, and, bizarrely, balding testicles. Sometimes, his testicles look a little bit bumpy and scaly. Not quite what you're seeing on your buck's face, but similar. You might try giving your guy some zinc, and see if it helps. Zinc is another good immune booster, so would probably help him deal with a secondary issue, if zinc deficiency is not the direct cause of the bumps you're seeing around his mouth.
    If I'm remembering right, copper and zinc are antagonists, meaning that they cancel each other out. So you might want to try giving one, wait a few weeks to see if you notice any improvement, and then give the other.
    Does his coat look good? Is it rough, or does the hair have a bleached look? Do you notice any bald spots on any of the rest of his body? Do the insides of his eyelids look good and pink?
     
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  8. goathiker

    goathiker I'm watching you Staff Member Supporting Member

    I've seen this many times here in the dampness of the NW. It's actually a fungus. It takes this form or causes tiny bald spots all over their face and white spots on their nose.
    I use Tri-care or Providine ointment to heal it up.
     
  9. Ranger1

    Ranger1 Well-Known Member

    Sep 1, 2014
    Oh, interesting! We’ve had certain ones that get it every year, usually the bucks. Zinc and vitamin c seemed to clear it up, but we never did know what it was.
     
  10. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    I would give garlic, vitamin c, and zinc.
     
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  11. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
  12. Bill C

    Bill C New Member

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    Jan 18, 2021
    Saskatchewan
    I totally agree with your thoughts re soremouth. We checked to make sure there wasn't anything stuck in his lips or nose. Its possible, I suppose, that he was poked with a thistle within the alfalfa maybe. We give a powdered mineral supplement, tailored for goats, that contains minerals needed. We were putting grain in a large rubber bowl, but the smaller animals lower in the pecking order were getting gyped. So we were putting some small piles of grain on the ground also so that they all could get a fair share. What we suspect is that our buck with the issue has been snuffeling around on the frozen ground to get every bit of grain. This may be a contributor to the peculiarity. Anyway, we stopped this practice just in case and the hairless bumps seem to have diminished some. Definately not getting worse anyway. Your suggestion about him possibly rubbing his nose on something gave us pause for thought. Thank you for your help and advice. Greatly appreciated.
     
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  13. Bill C

    Bill C New Member

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    Jan 18, 2021
    Saskatchewan
    Thank you to all who have posted the helpful advice. Your knowledgeable, experienced feedback is invaluable and GREATLY appreciated. Cheers!
     
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  14. Bill C

    Bill C New Member

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    Jan 18, 2021
    Saskatchewan
    Ranger1, we will definately try this. Had been a bit warmer off and on the last couple of weeks causing some melt and dampness. With him snuffeling around in it for grain it makes sense. Will stop putting grain on the ground and will get that ointment. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.
     
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  15. Caileigh Jane Smith

    Caileigh Jane Smith Well-Known Member

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    Dec 1, 2019
    Missouri, USA
    Hope he clears up soon! Feeding on the ground is likely to cause parasite issues, so I'm glad you're not doing that anymore. I have individual feeds pans for my goats. Or you can use a feed bunk. Getting their hay off the ground will help with parasites, too.