Some does to consider...

Discussion in 'Goat Frenzy' started by pennylullabelle, Jan 22, 2010.

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  1. Jan 22, 2010 #1
    pennylullabelle

    pennylullabelle New Member

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    Nov 21, 2009
    Silver Knolls (Reno) NV
    What do you think of these pedigrees? No pics yet, just looking at lines. Thanks for any help
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    Copper Penny RR Blue
    S: Twin Creeks WB Romeo Red *S E
    SS: MCH Goodwood Weisbaden +* S E
    SD: MCH Twin Creeks Midsumernitedream
    D: Ponders End MTB Glitter
    DS: Twin Creeks PD Moneyinthe Bank
    DD: MCH Ponders End Maximun Praise E

    CRF Castle Rock Thumper
    S: Twin Creeks BW Montego Bay +*S
    SS: MCH Twin Creeks BH Bay Watch ++*S E
    SD: MCH Gay-Mor's JJU Nonpareil 4*D E
    D: Piddlin Acres Liebshen
    DS: ARMCH Goodwood Weisbaden ++*S E
    DD: Woodhaven Farms Moondancer *D E

    Mystiques RHB Shiloh
    S: Twin Creeks RA Red Hot N Blue
    SS: Piddlin Acres Red Adair
    SD: Flat Rocks American Beauty
    D: Sugar Pine Grand Illusion
    DS: Flat Rocks MS Sudden Illusion
    DD: OTR Juniper's Guinevere
     
    pennylullabelle, Jan 22, 2010
    pennylullabelle, Jan 22, 2010
  3. Jan 22, 2010 #2
    TinyHoovesRanch

    TinyHoovesRanch New Member

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    Oroville, California
    BAY WATCH!!!! great goat there :drool:
     
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 22, 2010
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 22, 2010

  5. Jan 22, 2010 #3
    capriola-nd

    capriola-nd New Member

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    Nice lines but that doesn't mean they combined well to produce lovely goats. I have a Red Hot N Blue daughter and she is very, very dairy and correct in just about every way - BUT, her medial could have more definition and her fore udder could be more extended, also it'd be nice if her teats were bigger. Improvements in these areas seen in her daughter's udder.
     
    capriola-nd, Jan 22, 2010
    capriola-nd, Jan 22, 2010
  6. Jan 22, 2010 #4
    Idahodreamer

    Idahodreamer Senior Member

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    Sep 19, 2009
    Central South Dakota
    I have a doe who goes back to Rosasharn Uni on both sides, however, her dam's udder was very loosely attached. :(
    Although I am crossing my fingers for a nicer udder from my girl, she will most likely fallow her mommy's suit.
     
    Idahodreamer, Jan 22, 2010
    Idahodreamer, Jan 22, 2010
  7. Jan 23, 2010 #5
    KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

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    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Pedigree wise, they sound nice. But pedigrees don't make the goat. ;)
     
    KW Farms, Jan 23, 2010
    KW Farms, Jan 23, 2010
  8. Jan 23, 2010 #6
    Idahodreamer

    Idahodreamer Senior Member

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    Central South Dakota
    Ditto Kylee. ;)
     
    Idahodreamer, Jan 23, 2010
    Idahodreamer, Jan 23, 2010
  9. Jan 23, 2010 #7
    pennylullabelle

    pennylullabelle New Member

    646
    Nov 21, 2009
    Silver Knolls (Reno) NV
    Thanks for the input so far everyone! And I definitely agree, pedigree is only part of the journey! What the parents produced when their genetics combined and the overall conformation of the does matters more. I guess I'll find out more when I meet them tomorrow.
     
    pennylullabelle, Jan 23, 2010
    pennylullabelle, Jan 23, 2010
  10. Jan 23, 2010 #8
    heathersboers

    heathersboers New Member

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    Sep 5, 2008
    Wilson N.C.
    We look at papers too-But some of our nicest built goats have the least "ennoblements" on their papers. Good luck choosing!!!
     
    heathersboers, Jan 23, 2010
    heathersboers, Jan 23, 2010
  11. Jan 23, 2010 #9
    TinyHoovesRanch

    TinyHoovesRanch New Member

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    GET THUMPER :drool:
     
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 23, 2010
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 23, 2010
  12. Jan 23, 2010 #10
    pennylullabelle

    pennylullabelle New Member

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    Nov 21, 2009
    Silver Knolls (Reno) NV
    You want me to get Thumper so you can steal her when we stop for gas and I'm not looking!! hehehe
     
    pennylullabelle, Jan 23, 2010
    pennylullabelle, Jan 23, 2010
  13. Jan 23, 2010 #11
    TinyHoovesRanch

    TinyHoovesRanch New Member

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    No.... of course not.... THAT thought never crossed my mind.... :shrug:

    BUT when she goes missing it WASNT MEEEEEE....

    OK OK I cant lie....it was LIZ I TOLD HER NOT TOO!!!! BUT SHES A VICIOUS ANIMAL!!!
     
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 23, 2010
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 23, 2010
  14. Jan 23, 2010 #12
    pennylullabelle

    pennylullabelle New Member

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    Nov 21, 2009
    Silver Knolls (Reno) NV
    Hahaha I'm gunna tell her you said that. Oh yeah, I would totally rat you out. Muh hah hah
     
    pennylullabelle, Jan 23, 2010
    pennylullabelle, Jan 23, 2010
  15. Jan 23, 2010 #13
    TinyHoovesRanch

    TinyHoovesRanch New Member

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    AMANDA!!!! NOOOOOOOO
    I thought...... I thought we were BLOODS!!!!

    Im gonna remember this!!!
    OMG SHES GONNA KILL MEEEEE

    MEH.....How about I just steal Jumper and run away!!
     
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 23, 2010
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 23, 2010
  16. Jan 23, 2010 #14
    SterlingAcres

    SterlingAcres Member

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    I also like Thumper's lines. Good luck with whatever you chose :D
     
    SterlingAcres, Jan 23, 2010
    SterlingAcres, Jan 23, 2010
  17. Jan 24, 2010 #15
    pennylullabelle

    pennylullabelle New Member

    646
    Nov 21, 2009
    Silver Knolls (Reno) NV
    I decided not to get Blue, but got Thumper and Shiloh. I'll post pictures soon. They are still settling in :)

    I feel like I am really still learning, but like I could trust my eye enough to determine if these girls were what I was looking for! Thanks for all the help! Both are just 2 and haven't freshened yet, so I am going to breed them soon for summer kids!
     
    pennylullabelle, Jan 24, 2010
    pennylullabelle, Jan 24, 2010
  18. Jan 24, 2010 #16
    SDK

    SDK New Member

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    why didn't you get blue?? IMO that's the best pedigree listed.. and i've met both her parents and her dam's grandparents
     
    SDK, Jan 24, 2010
    SDK, Jan 24, 2010
  19. Jan 24, 2010 #17
    TinyHoovesRanch

    TinyHoovesRanch New Member

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    I guess Blue hasnt been putting any weight on and i think thats why amanda didnt want to risk it
     
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 24, 2010
    TinyHoovesRanch, Jan 24, 2010
  20. Jan 24, 2010 #18
    StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    just remember that summer is hard on them when pregnant and birthing especially and a summer kidding can cause kids to be less thrifty and they tend to get parasites easier.
     
    StaceyRosado, Jan 24, 2010
    StaceyRosado, Jan 24, 2010
  21. Jan 25, 2010 #19
    pennylullabelle

    pennylullabelle New Member

    646
    Nov 21, 2009
    Silver Knolls (Reno) NV
    I am reserving Blue pending a clean bill of health. I just didn't want to bring her home just yet. Since her current owner knows her well she would be able to better recognize "odd" behavior if something does develop with Blue. It's winter, she's low on the chain of command, and it could very well be nothing. I just wanted to do what is best for her and make sure she is healthy :) I'll keep you posted on if she joins my herd!

    Snapped a quick few shots of the girls. Thumper is the buckskin, Shiloh the white with spots.

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    pennylullabelle, Jan 25, 2010
    pennylullabelle, Jan 25, 2010
  22. Jan 25, 2010 #20
    KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

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    Wapato, WA
    They're very pretty...congrats!! Shiloh sure has some neat markings!
     
    KW Farms, Jan 25, 2010
    KW Farms, Jan 25, 2010
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