Some issues with me....

Discussion in 'The Chatter Box' started by kelebek, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    I just wanted to give you all a bit of a heads up -

    I am going through some rough medical issues with my jaw if you haven't seen the couple posts where I have mentioned it.

    In Nov 2007 I went to the denist after 5 years and had 3 fillings done, small ones nothing major - or so I thought. The dentist messed up my mouth something fierced, cracked another tooth - told me my pain was normal - and within 2 weeks I was crying everyday, had lost 20 pounds from not being able to eat and couldn't bite down - which is when he finally said, Oh I think I cracked your tooth - so he then had to fill that one. However when he filled it - he didn't do normal fillings on me - he encapsulated the teeth with the material.

    By mid January, I was still in alot of pain, still couldn't eat much and went to a different dentist who started working with my weekly trying to get my bite back so that my teeth would come together correctly trying to get the pain to go away.

    On Feb 22 2008 ( 1 year ago) I woke up to my mouth being locked to where I could not open it past 2 1/2 inches. It was like this for about a month. I was then refered to the ENT then to the TMJ specialist. That is when I found out that my insurance (medical and dental) neither cover TMJ. So the specialist was 200 just to walk through the door and typical treatment is 2500, which I can not afford.

    So after ALOT of muscle relaxers I finally got it to open, and within a few months I could open it completely with just it poppping periodically.

    Well, on Feb 4th 2009, I woke up to my jaw hurting so bad in my ear, my cheek bone, and down my top and lower jaw on my right side. My dentist will no longer help me till I go to the specialist. I have been eating Hydros (pain pills) and Aleve like you would not believe. In the last couple days my face on the side of the pain is spasming, sharp shooting pain through my face, ear feels on fire, and it is going into my head and eyes and down my neck.

    In the mornings I am feeling alright - just dull pain, but by night from talking and eating I am in tears and just praying to make the pain stop.

    Today I broke down and called the specialist. They can not get me in until April 1st.... which is a month and a half. I have 10 pain pills to last me till then. So if I only take 1/2 pill, that is still only 20 days and leaves me almost a full month before even seeing the doctor. Then I have to figure out how in the heck I am paying for the specialist.

    We have submitted a claim to the Idaho State Board of Denistry against the beginning dr. But all they can do is find him guilty of giving substandard care. If he "offers" to pay for treatment great but they can't force him. Although if he is guilty then we can take him to court, however how long is this going to take and will I ever see the payment to the specialist to fix me. My regular dentist that the family sees now, thinks that I may need surgery now for it.

    So if I am not on much at night, or you see me on messanger saying laying down - not well - you know why. I am not trying to hide out on you all - but by night time - I am hurting so bad my head is foggy and my sight is a little blurry.
     
  2. RunAround

    RunAround New Member

    Feb 17, 2008
    Massachusetts
    Can't your primary care doctor give you any pain killers? I mean thats inhumane! I've had my fair share of tooth, jaw and ear pain so I know thats PAINFUL.

    I will be :pray: for you Kelebek.

    I am so tired of IDIOT Doctors and Dentists! :angry: All I hear about is them messing up. Makes me terrified to ever go to a doctor or dentist... well I wont go to the latter. ha ha
     

  3. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    Allison you have been in my prayers and will continue to be so. I am so sorry to hear about this - I think Dentists are a pain the BUTT and I don't mind saying that I dont trust them.

    This past January I got two fillings done eventhoug I "trust" the dentist I am now having issues though my sister says its normal. :angry: pain is not normal :veryangry: so I am going to call tomorrow because I was in NO pain before I went in and now I am in pain

    You take all the time you need and dont worry about anything. If you can be here we are happy and glad to have you, if not just lay low and try to heal up as best you can.
     
  4. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    The only reason that I even have the ones that I do is because I get 10 hydo (pain pills) and 10 flexeril (muscle relaxers) a year for my hips that I am in physical therapy for. My kids are going to the dentist next week and I am going to talk with him about getting some more - otherwise I am going to have to go to the Emergency room - I mean, I realize that they are narcotics, but 10 pills in a year - that is far from addiction!!

    Thanks Stacey - I will still be here - just maybe not at night as much - like right now, I am going to bed cause really I am sobbing and just want the pain to stop. Taking 1/2 a pill lets me sleep a little (about 2 hours) with milk interruptions and then I sleep on and off the rest of the night. I just can't believe that there is no way that they can't get me in sooner to the specialist. I am going to call everyday and bug them in hopes of getting in earlier.
     
  5. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    good for you I was going to suggest the bugging. Squeeky wheel gets the grease!

    Maybe someone will cancel last minute and you can get in - but only if you bug them enough to be on the top of the list!
     
  6. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Oh Allison, I am so so sorry. :hug: :hug: :hug: I feel so bad you are going through this. Any kind of injury on the head can just be agony and the mouth especially...ouch. :tears: Try and get in there before April 1 if you can, because if you mouth is hurting all the way up to your ear then there is a serious issue there that needs to be treated soon. That first dentist sounds like an idiot and if I were you I would definately take this all the way to court and get some kind of payment for this. That is absolutely terrible and all the pain you're going through, you deserve ten times what that surgery costs! It might take some time, but you should definately fight this.

    Don't feel bad you can't be on here as much as you'd like, we all completely understand. I will send prayers and good thoughts Allison, I sure hope you can get all fixed up and get into the specialist soon. Just rest, relax, and try and feel ok, and don't worry about keeping up with us on TGS. We'll be here for you when you feel well enough to get back on and chat a bit :wink: . Take care!!! BIG :hug:
     
  7. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    i know your pain allison.. i too have TMJ. its absolutely horrible, unfortunately mine isn't dentist related and runs in the family.. but i hope you find a way to fix your owie.
     
  8. Amos

    Amos New Member

    Oct 2, 2008
    Minnesota
    :hug: :hug: :hug:
    I hope you'll be ok Allison :hug:
    I'm developing TMJ on the left side, and I honestly don't know why, but I hope it doesn't get as bad as yours, not that saying that could make you feel any better..
     
  9. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    oh wow, hope you are feeling better soon! :hug: :grouphug:
     
  10. lorna

    lorna New Member

    21
    May 12, 2008
    I can relate on many levels, I hope my experience might help a little. I chipped half of one of my front teeth off slipping in the cafeteria after church, because I was on crutches from a broken foot and it was raining. That was the start of a 20 year quest to have 2 good front teeth. I will not bore you with the long version, but I had many bad dentists (I think they meant well but not up on current things). One even lost my crown after all the stuff I went through.
    Hold out for a dentist that you trust. I had finally found one in the S.F./Bay Area through my step-mom. I moved to Los Angeles and had no clue, after a few bad ones, got recommendation from a new friend. She is amazing! She not only unprompted complemented me on the front tooth crown my first fav dentist did, she made me amazing crowns even for my back teeth. She is connected to a State University, I think that is a good sign. You can see her passion, she says that she knew she wanted to be a dentist from childhood. That's who you need. Remember you also get what you pay for. A really good dentist will not be the cheapest, but the most expensive does not ensure better care.
    After all the money and discomfort you should be happy and look good, do not settle for less.

    Aside, when I got my first non-silver filling I had a lot of sensitivity for months, I had a friend that worked at a dental school, she told me that was normal, but what was not was the dentist doing the cleaning himself. Also they never told it would be that way then go away. That was the one I left for my current dentist. Demand the best!!!

    Good luck-sorry for the ramble... :)
    Lorna
     
  11. rgbdab

    rgbdab New Member

    252
    Nov 26, 2007
    TEXAS
    I also have TMJ and my medical and dental insurance doesn't cover it either. I have been in treatment for it since last August and had to get a credit card to pay for it. As you mentioned it's pricey, over 3000.00 so far and the Dr says I need surgery but that will be $20,000.00 and it's not going to happen.

    I have been wearing a mouth splint and taking muscle relaxers since August and I am beginning to be able to open my mouth wider and can eat a few things now other than soup, mashed potatoes and ice cream finally.

    Mt heart goes out to you and I pray things will improve.

    Denise
     
  12. Di

    Di Crazy Goat Lady

    Jan 29, 2008
    central PA
    Well, I have to say "I'm surprised at the bad dentistry you all are coping with".

    Those of you who are having TMJ problems...are any of you wearing a TMJ splint? Ask your dentist if this will help you...unfortunately...they aren't cheap...but...are well worth it for some. If you need a splint made, I am a Dental Technician, I can make you one in my lab.

    Stacey, if your filling was deep (as in near the nerve), it would not be "unusual" to have "some" soreness after a filling. But, an anti-inflamitory (asprin, etc) should address that and it should not be true PAIN, if you are having PAIN, if it's throbing or sharp, shooting, etc., you should be seen again and have x-rays to determine if you have another problem or an abscess. Is it an upper or lower tooth? Sometimes, it's hard to tell which tooth is the culprit (especially in the lower jaw).

    My husband (the Dentist) says that alot of Dentists try to take out all of the decay in a deep filling, and get too close to the nerve, in effect causing injury to the nerve which results in the patient needing "root canal therapy". The ADA says now, that they can stop short of going that deep, seal over the nerve, place a filling and because no "air" can get to the area the decay cannot progress. But, a lay-person wouldn't know this and there is really no way to prove that you wouldn't have needed a root canal anyway.

    Kelek, you might get some relief from a "soft splint" in a "pinch", while you wait for your appointment...you could try on of those athletic mouth guards that you can buy at a sporting goods store. You have to mold it a little yourself, but probably wouldn't hurt to try it, especially at night. I've noticed some TMJ patients are pretty bad "grinders", so if you grind your teeth or find you are a "clincher", this might help some.

    Look for a Community Health Center in your area that is for lower income folks, sometimes they have programs for "underinsured" people to help in this kind of crisis.

    I hope this might help some of you. Remember, I am NOT A DENTIST. NOR SHOULD MY OBSERVATIONS BE A SUBSTITUE FOR YOUR DENTISTS RECOMMENDATIONS! :hug:
     
  13. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    talked to my sister - she she had some good options for me and I am going to call them for a follow up appointment to see if the filling is just still a tad bit high in one spot and I am just catching it every so often.

    I am a grinder and I just cant afford the guard. Tried the ones from teh store but it didnt work so I am not sure I really want to pay the 600.00 from the one from the dentist :shrug:
     
  14. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    Thank you for the kind words and info from all of you!!

    I have been using a temporary splint, but it is not helping at all. The pain is progressing, but I am actually wondering if it really is TMJ or that is the "suspicion" because of what the first doctor did. My husband said that if the pain is as bad tonight as it has been, that he is taking me to the ER tonight. He said NO WAY is he going to let me keep going like this.

    My face is twitching (which is really uncomfortable when I am a "front line" person at work and you are talking with a student and the side of your face starts twitching uncontrollably.)

    I tried calling the doctor at 8 this morning, and they are closed on Friday's. So I will let you know.

    PS I did buy a heating pad last night that has a shut off timer - and I would wake up and turn it back on - but I did notice it would feel like it wasn't working - my face would be cold, but I would touch it and it was hot - I am loosing some feeling in that side of my face.
     
  15. MissMM

    MissMM New Member

    645
    Oct 22, 2007
    McGregor, MN
    You've got company in agony here, Allison. I've had TMJ for almost 20 years. Thankfully, the episodes are becoming fewer & farther between. Which is backwards cause I've been too terrified to go back to the dentist for about 6 years. I do not understand how insurance companies can refuse to pay for treatment of any kind if it's related to TMJ.

    I have found that Imitrex for migraines really helps. For really bad days, I double-up on that and add a few fingers of bourbon....... not the best way to handle it, I know, but better than hurting like the dickens.
     
  16. RunAround

    RunAround New Member

    Feb 17, 2008
    Massachusetts
    :thumb: :cheers:

    Sry... crazy 21 year old here! :ROFL:
     
  17. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    twitching and loosing feeling .........not good! I am glad your husband is going to take you to the ER.
     
  18. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    I am so sorry .....you are hurting so bad.....Is there any other specialists... close enough in another town? ...so maybe you can get in sooner? Did you mention to the specialist when making your appointment...that it is an emergency and you were in tremendous pain? .....

    I wish... I could take your pain away....I am praying that all works out for you soon....and that your pain will go away.... :hug:
     
  19. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    Oh yah, I told the Dr. office everything, but the little (sounded like she was 12) on the otherline didn't seem to care. Now a co-worker just told me that it looks like the side of my face is swollen. I had her tell me which area, and that is where it is twitching and tingling alot.

    I think I will definately be going in tonight..... I will keep you posted.
     
  20. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Allison ...please go in now......it sounds bad...I am very concerned ....it is definitely getting worse....everytime you post... :(
    The sooner you go in ....the sooner you may get relief and an answer of what is happening.... :hug: :pray: