I shaved her the minute I got her home (black goat in 80 degree weather with a full coat...uh uh). She's got gorgeous teats which look huge for a FF, and nice attachments all around (would like to fix her front attachment, but oh well-we'll see what next year brings). I'll be milking her tonight, so we'll see what she produces. I also weighed her and everyone else with the tape method...Jenny weighs in at 110, Talala 120, Butters 23 lb and Tweek 19 lb (these are 2 1/2 week old kids here). Jenny *looks* better than she did, but she's still bony, just not as noticeably. Talala of course, is actually overconditioned....and talk about copper deficiency. Her legs were almost red. I know her old owner's been too busy with other kids to supplement her, but I've got the stuff, so no worries there. I'll be getting pictures soon as I get an SD card for my new camera.