Taming “wild” Nigerians

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by bekscott, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. bekscott

    bekscott Active Member

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    Sep 29, 2016
    Brimfield, Ohio
    Recently I bought 2 Nigerian dwarf does that I adore from afar! They will be a year old in Dec. They ran with a herd that the seller said was closed and negative for CL, CAE, and Johne’s. They may be pregnant. I would love to know for sure whether they are or not but I’m not sure about the stress I would cause them in catching and restraining them to get blood. I did manage to collar one but they definitely do not want to be touched. They will approach me tentatively and reach toward my outstretched hand. They are also starting to lay down with my other does. Should I let the blood test go and focus on gaining their trust or go ahead with their CDT and BoSE and try to draw blood? If they are pregnant would it help to tame the kids if the two of them were penned up so that we could have close contact even though they don’t like it? I don’t like the idea of selling wild babies...I’ve had them for 1 month. I can accept that I am probably rushing them but all of you know the anxiety and longing that comes from wondering... The girl I bought them from said she didn’t see them in heat but being that they were pastured I’m not sure it wouldn’t be easy to miss.
     
  2. Couple of Quacks

    Couple of Quacks New Member

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    Nov 13, 2019
    Maine
    If they're already scared of you, I don't see an issue with catching them for shots/blood draw. They'll warm up to you either way if you give them sunflower seeds or other treats with scratches a few times aday. Vaccines and BoSe (&Copper) are definitely more important than delaying the taming process.

    In terms of the kids, unless you're bottlefeeding and raising them seperately, the behavior of their mothers will likely influence the kids personalities, but I'd just work with the treats and other contact with them on a regular basis.
     

  3. bekscott

    bekscott Active Member

    63
    Sep 29, 2016
    Brimfield, Ohio
    I will definitely try that. I guess I would rather be able to approach friendly goats that aren’t pregnant rather than not being able to touch wild moms AND wild kids!
     
  4. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    I agree..catch them and do what you have to, blood draw, shots and hooves etc..then, I would pen them in a smaller area. An area you can easily catch them if needed but plenty of space to move around in. Spend lots of time with them. Feed them, fresh water..bring a treat..raisins, shelled unsalted peanuts, animal cookies, apple slices etc. Catch and hold them..speak softly while stroking their cheeks..when they relax, give them a treat and let them go. move gentle around them but don't tip toe..be normal in your actions so they get used to that. My kids would go and lay in the pen and just be still..goats would come to inspect them lol..I have tamed many this way but have had a few that never tamed up. Sent them to a new home and low and behold, they turned to lap babies..sometimes it happens lol. And Im over joyed we found them a place they can be at peace in.
     
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  5. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Yep, get things done, then with time, they will warm up to you.

    Spend time with them, sit in a chair with treats, and a soft voice. ;)
     
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  6. Goats Rock

    Goats Rock Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    NE Ohio
    Don't act tentative when you do the vaccines, blood draws etc. It seems like if you tiptoe around shots and such, they freak out more than just matter of factly doing it.
     
  7. bekscott

    bekscott Active Member

    63
    Sep 29, 2016
    Brimfield, Ohio
    Thanks for the advice! Luckily the two does I had previously don't mind my loving on them; I do need to exercise some patience here! I should have mentioned I've had them for 2 weeks!
     
  8. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki

    You have some good advice already. I jus wanna add.... i would wait til a month before kidding (when you see udder start to develop since you dont have an actual due date) to do cdt. It will give the kids some immunity until theirs. :).
     
  9. bekscott

    bekscott Active Member

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    Sep 29, 2016
    Brimfield, Ohio
    Thank you! I feel better after the feedback I have gotten. Both of them took a corn chip from my hand today! My heart was pounding with glee...
     
  10. Goats Rock

    Goats Rock Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    NE Ohio
    There isn't a better feeling than to finally win the trust of a wary animal!
     
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  11. Trollmor

    Trollmor Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2011
    Goatless in Sweden
    And in only 2 weeks, well done!

    But "the seller said was closed and negative for CL, CAE, and Johne’s" -- what do you others say, is that enough?
     
  12. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki

    Yay! That is awesome! I remember when ours first would take a treat and let us really rub on them good.... best feelin ever! Then they became love monger terrors hahahhahaha!
     
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  13. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California