Thin senior doe please help!!!

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by daisysmaid, Aug 6, 2020.

  1. daisysmaid

    daisysmaid Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2018
    Hey all!!! It’s been a while since I’ve been on here due only to the crazy life of moving. Anyway my oldest doe is not doing so well these days....

    Her coat is super shiny, she gets free choice alfalfa, grain of 16% protein, flakes corn, BOSS, and beet pulp shreds. Free choice loose minerals, trace mineral block, iodine salt block, and received 4grams of copper in June.

    She was wormed back in June with ivermectin
    I just did a fecal on her and she was at 300 epg so under the limit of needing to worm.

    Her famacha is a 1:( I’ve had two separate blood tests done one each week. She is clearly anemic.

    I have been giving her red cell twice a day and fortified b12 complex. I’m not sure what to try next. The vet said her teeth were fine. Thanks in advance for any tips, tricks, or advice. We are going to anoth hospital where the vet is a caprine and small ruminant specialist
     
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  2. daisysmaid

    daisysmaid Well-Known Member

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  3. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    I would send a fecal into a lab and have a closer look. Sometimes a second set of eyes help. Include liverfluke, lung worm and coccidia in that fecal. Meadowmistlabs are good and are quick. Only $5 a sample right now. (Will be $6 starting next month)

    In the mean time..red cell should be once a day for a week then once a week 6 cc per 100 pounds. If this is not getting results..then switch to injectable pig iron..4 cc per 100 pounds sub q. Have epinephrine in a syringe ready to give or a large dose of liquid Benadryl ( 20-30 cc) and more handy if needed. Some goats react to injectable iron so its best to be on guard.

    B12 injectable once a day is helpful to rebuild red blood cells
    30 cc 50/50 acv /water once a day to speed recovery
    High protien feed and browse alson help rebuild red blood cells.
     
  4. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    I would definitely have a fecal done by someone else as well to compare. But keep in mind that sometimes even what is considered a "normal" load is too much for some goats. Elderly with problems and/or sick goats are going to be less likely to handle much of a parasite load.
     
  5. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    :nod::up:

    Get the fecal for worms and cocci.

    Check for lice/mites.
     
  6. daisysmaid

    daisysmaid Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2018
    Thanks everyone, I will get the fecal sent out ASAP. As far lice/mites I’m not noticing any signs and we’ve definitely had our share when the weather changed out here.
     
  7. daisysmaid

    daisysmaid Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2018
    I will try to keep you all updated as to any new results or info
     
  8. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    This^^
     
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  9. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    How old is she?

    I definitely think a fecal analysis ASAP with a FAMACHA that poor.

    Are her poops normal? How is her energy level?

    If you can't get the fecal analysis out the door in the next couple days, I would consider deworming her using a combination of dewormers. Which dewormers do you have on hand?

    As much browse or leafy branches you can get in front of her, the better.
     
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  10. daisysmaid

    daisysmaid Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2018
    So, sending the fecal and blood off today or first thing in the morning. I’m waiting on blood tubes...

    Her poops are completely 100% normal

    we think is right around 12 we know for sure she is over 10 as She had several kiddings before I got her.

    Her energy level is what I would suspect in a senior animal. She’s still in charge of the herd lol

    I wormed her with ivermectin in June both doses. I have safeguard and valbazen on hand.
     
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  11. daisysmaid

    daisysmaid Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2018
    Another thing to add is I’ve never seen her coat so sleek and shiny before!!! It looks fantastic
     
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  12. Goat Whisperer

    Goat Whisperer Well-Known Member

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    Dec 3, 2018
    I agree with what has been said, definitely get another fecal done. Sometimes liverflukes don't show, after you get results I'd still consider treating her for flukes anyway.

    How much feed is she taking down? Dyne is a good way to get more calories in her, but if she is eating well on her own I'd wait before giving it (it has slowed down eating on some of my ladies).
     
  13. daisysmaid

    daisysmaid Well-Known Member

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    Jun 21, 2018
    What would be the best course of action for liverflukes?
     
  14. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Treatment would be Ivomec plus (contains clorsulon)
     
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  15. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    Or valbazen which also addresses liverfluke. Ivomec plus and Valbazen are the only two dewormers to address LF.
    There are herbs and ess. Oils that can assist in addressing then as well.
     
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  16. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
  17. MadHouse

    MadHouse Well-Known Member

    How is your girl now? I hope she recovered!