I was just thinking, what all should we be getting for the winter months....and when. We are in Central KY, and it starts getting really cool here usually in mid November to December, nights start getting cool or cold in Oct - usually mid Oct. And that's when we typically have our first freeze. By winter, we should have 7 boer does, 1-2 bucks, and 3 does would be kidding before then so not sure what they'd have, plus we have a doe in heat now that if she is bred, would kid at the end of Dec <no more breedings after this - I don't want Jan/Feb babies>. I'm coming up with ideas for more shelters, and want to make sure everyone will be out of the cold & wind. But how much hay should we try to get? We don't have a lot of space to store it, so we are thinking we should get at least 4-5 round bales, plus the square bales - enough to fill our back shed, and the top of the mini barn. Should we buy a couple extra round bales since I used them for bedding as well? And any suggestions on storing them for winter since they'd have to be outside? Right now the one we have in their pen is fine with a tarp over it and it's on a pallet - think that would be fine for the ones we buy for winter? It's pretty inexpensive to get it now, so I was thinking we should try to get it soon. Any tips on what I should have on hand for winter for goats? What about when ice builds up around their pen area? What is the best way to break the ice down and keep from having them slipping and falling? I want to get a list going of all the things I need to get and have done. I don't know what the next few months will look like - might be real busy in Sept if things work out, so I have to get busy soon. Oh, and does grain typically stay regular price in the winter? I thought I'd check with a breeder friend and see what she says about the feed since we use the same kind/same place. How long can you keep grain fresh? We usually buy 2 bags at a time, but we've gotten 4 more goats since I bought grain on July 1st, and we're getting our other 3 does soon and they are preggo. Soooo... I'm just wondering what i need to be doing about the grain as well... How do you thaw your water? And any ideas on helping to keep it thawed? We don't have electric in the mini barn, and that won't happen til spring, so the only electric run out there is extension chords for emergencies.