Trying to Learn More About Conformation

Discussion in 'Goat Conformation' started by MellonFriend, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    I would like to learn more about goat conformation, but I am having some trouble coming up with resources for doing so. The internet seems to be lacking in this area I'd like to see some pictures pointing out what certain faults look like and such, but I have come up empty.

    The other trouble is, as some of you may know, I have kinder goats and they are considered a dual purpose breed (milk and meat). All the conformation information{:lolgoat:}regards meat or dairy. How do I find the balance between?
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  2. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki

    I saw an excellent pic collage on dairy goats on fb mini nubian breeders... i have asked if i could share it here for you.
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  3. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    If you have dairy goats, ADGA should have that info.
  4. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    I know there is information online, but I was hoping for pictures or examples to help with understanding what the information actually looks like. I have a hard time understanding exactly what the descriptions mean since I have no reference.
  5. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki
  6. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki
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    I think i got them all in here for you. I posted these with permission from the original poster.
  7. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
  8. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    This is SO helpful. Thankyou!!! Just what I was looking for!
  9. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    Now what I am going to do is post some pics of my girls and say what I think I am seeing, and you guys tell me if my opinion sounds right. I know that pictures can be decieveing, but I think they cooperated pretty well for me.
    I think Bella (top) looks a little more swayed in the back than she normally does.
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    I think Bella has a longer body than Prim. Both are a bit steep on the rump angle, but Prim's is better. Prim is more of a triangle in the body capacity and also has more body capacity than Bella. Bella is more of a rectangle.

    IMG_5169.JPG Clearly here Prim is much more of a triangle.

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    I have noticed from the beginning that Bella is much more narrow in the shoulders. I thought that was a fault, but now I not sure Prim's shoulders aren't out a bit far.

    No udders to compare yet. That should come in spring. (fingers crossed)

    Please tell me what you think. I want to learn! :bookgoat:
  10. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki
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  11. mariella

    mariella Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2017
    Prague Oklahoma
    I've been looking into the breed for a while because I love Pygmys and I love Nubians so a cross of the two intrigues me. There is a group on Facebook that is all about Kinders, I will post a link below. It appears that most Kinders have a tiny bit of a steep rump.

    Bella does have a steep rump but I think it's part of the breed, but she also has the better brisket and neck blending of the two. Her back is really wavy.
    Prim has a better back and rump and really good width between her front legs.
    I'm really not that good at confirmation yet so take my words with a grain of salt.
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  12. Ranger1

    Ranger1 Well-Known Member

    Sep 1, 2014
    Look for the book “The Illustrated Standard For the Dairy Goat.”
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  13. Minky

    Minky Member

    Aug 12, 2018
    These photos and triangle diagrams have been very helpful, and quite surprising! Who knew a goat should have a flat rump?! Thank you!
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  14. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

  15. Goatzrule

    Goatzrule Well-Known Member

    Feb 7, 2013
    New England
    Those diagrams are so helpful. Would have helped me study the scorecard as well when I was in 4H