Udder opinions

Discussion in 'Dairy Diaries' started by cyanne, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. cyanne

    cyanne Senior Member

    Okay, so Ruby kidded with twin bucklings and we are trying to decide if her udder is nice enough to sell them as bucks or if they need to be given the big green cheerio. What do you guys think?

    These pics are of her about 4 wks fresh with 15 hrs of milk in her udder.

    Her dam is MCH Little Rascals Emerald *D and her sire is Piddlin Acres BZ Cowboy Boots.

  2. Idahodreamer

    Idahodreamer Senior Member

    From what I can tell of her udder from the pics >warning, I am not a pro<,
    I would buy a buck from you!!!!!!!!!!! :drool:
    Very nice and high, very wide, and those teats!! :drool: :love:
    What are the kids' pedigrees? Did you breed her to a buck who's dam is proven?
    ;) I personally think you should keep them as bucks--- from what I can see, she has a LOT goin' for her there. :thumbsup:
  3. cyanne

    cyanne Senior Member

    Oops, forgot to mention, she was bred to my buck, Piddlin Acres BD Whata Beau. His dam is Piddlin Acres BZ Whata Diva. She is not a finished champion, yet, but has great conformation and a lovely, well attached udder.

    You can see pics of her on the Piddlin Acre's site here:


    Ruby's dam, Emerald, is on that page as well, closer to the top. Ruby's sire, Cowboy Boots was sold, but you can see pics of him under Reference Bucks at the bottom of this page:


    This is a pic of my buck, Beau...not a great pic since he is not clipped and was being uncooperative and kept tucking his butt in because I had him cornered in the pen:

    http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak ... 8146_n.jpg
  4. Epona142

    Epona142 The farm that Hope began

    May 25, 2008
    Madisonville, TX
    I would buy a buckling from that doe in a heartbeat if I could afford it :D
  5. liz

    liz Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    :wink: Same here! I am by far no expert but I can see that she would DEFINATELY improve teat size and medial as well as rear with my doe Binkeys udder...A buck from her would be great for doing that!
  6. nutmegfarm

    nutmegfarm New Member

    Dec 22, 2009
    NE Ohio
    Very porportional, strong medial, good teat placement/teat porportion, very balanced, fantastic rear udder attachment (love that escutcheon on her), good fore udder, texture looks nice from the photo alone, looks very promising...One of the better nigerian mammaries I've seen. I would deffinately sell bucklings out of her for her mammary alone. :thumb:
  7. cyanne

    cyanne Senior Member

    This is the only halfway decent body pic I have of her right now. This is her when she was a tiny little yearling, still not fully mature:

    http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak ... 9706_n.jpg

    Will be clipping her soon for Spring shows, so will have some better pics then. She has definitely matured nicely since that pic was taken, she's gotten nice and wide, still level on the topline. She's not terribly long, but is proportional for her height. I am hoping that crossing her with my buck, Beau, adds some length to her kids. So far Beau has been passing along his length very well.
  8. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    very nice! I would try selling as bucks and if not then you can always wether them.
  9. Epona142

    Epona142 The farm that Hope began

    May 25, 2008
    Madisonville, TX
    I can't wait to see her in person, when I pick up Pepper and her daughter. Maybe I can get hubby to take me to some shows too!
  10. farmergal

    farmergal New Member

    Jun 19, 2009
    Northern California
    :shades: WOW that is a nice udder. i would definitely try to sell them as bucks... there are plenty of herds out there who could use that kind of improvement! Gorgeous medial and rear height.
  11. capriola-nd

    capriola-nd New Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Northwest Oregon
    I really love almost everything about her udder. Only thing I'd really change would be to make for smoother blending and more extension in the fore. . . looks like she may have a pocket. Other than that, GORGEOUS udder! I would definitely buy a buck from her to use on does w/ good fore udders.
  12. cyanne

    cyanne Senior Member

    yeah, she is shelfing a little at the front in these pics, but she does not have deep pockets, just a little shelf when the udder is packed full like it is in these pics. I was aiming for about 15 hrs of milk, and she is nursing a set of twins plus she lets one of the other does' big buck kid nurse as well AND I milk her once a day so she had a LOT of milk in there when the pics were taken.

    I am going to go ahead and post her boys for sale, they are up in the For Sale section now if anyone is interested in pics.
  13. Dreamchaser

    Dreamchaser New Member

    Oct 29, 2008
    Camp Verde, AZ
    I am by no means an expert. But I have to say that I think she has a gorgeous udder.
  14. Bellafire Farm

    Bellafire Farm New Member

    Jan 5, 2010
    NW Oregon
    very nice rear udder, super in fact! Love the width, medial strength, love the teat size and placement. I agree with Olivia though that she could use a smoother blend and greater foreudder extension... but wow, she's very nice, and I wouldn't flinch at all about selling boys as bucks. I've been "buck hunting" for a year now and have reviewed HUNDREDS of bucks who came from good farms and half of them didn't have udders that nice behind them. So I think you should do very well with bucks from her.
  15. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    rear udder and medial is great, teats are pretty nice. Is she a FF?? if so then i say no way.. because udders can change drastically with a freshening, especially the second.. I had a doe with a great FF udder, and her second FF udder was nowhere near as nice. and i agree it loos as though she may have a fore udder pocket. I say its better to be safe than sorry, a buck kid that turns out to be a flop can really hurt your name as a breeder
  16. cyanne

    cyanne Senior Member

    Nope, she is a second freshener, and there is not really much of a pocket at the front. Her udder is completely full in these pics so she has a little shelf there, but when she is at about 12 hrs or so of milk that disappears completely.

    I have seen does at shows with their udders looking like that and thought it was a bad thing...but then the same does have multiple show wins behind them and I heard the breeders complain that their does were "shelving like crazy today," so I wonder if this is something that does will do sometimes when they are really full and not at others (sort of like how they will sometimes not bag up for a show)???

    Or, is it just a structural issue that is mild enough that it just doesn't show until they are REALLY full?

    Really curious about this as I have seen pics of does with bad pockets and it looks different to me than the "shelf" that you sometimes see.
  17. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    i have some.. i will scrounge
  18. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    this is one doe whom i had from first to third freshening
  19. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    my lamancha 1st and second fresh, a2 different nigerian does first fresh