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Hi everyone, I’ll try to keep this as concise as I possibly can but I feel like people need a bit of background to fully help me try to understand what’s going on.

Background: I’ve had my goat Clover for about eight months. We purchased her from a woman who was very hands off with her goats and did not care for them (in my opinion) well. We were told she is about three years old, has kidded before with no problems, and was previously raised as a well loved pet before becoming more or less an overlooked pasture ornament. I chose her out of the herd because she was the most friendly but after getting her home became very aware of her runny goopy eyes and nose and clumpy diarrhea tail, she was also underweight. She kidded in March (unknow to us or the previous owner that she was bred at the time of purchase 🙃) and had one healthy buck. We have worked very hard to get her turned around but no matter what I try she seems to just generally be not very healthy.

Hers what’s concerning:
Goopy eyes with tear stains
Rough wiry coat
Back legs & face turning orange (She’s black)
Incredibly dry flaky skin
Crooked tail
Fishtail

CurrentResponse: She gets Selenium paste once a month, has gotten two copper boluses in the past six months, terramycin ointments for her eyes daily, and she gets a mix of grain from our local co op, BOSS, manna pro goat balancer and pumpkin seeds about one cup daily. She also has unlimited access to grass hay, Purina Goat minerals & Redmond mineral mix, and fresh water. We just had a fecal run and her numbers are normal, we worm regularly as needed. She is our herd queen and acts totally normal

I’ve exhausted my level of goat knowledge and really need some help. A few of my other goats have goopy eyes, but everything else listed is specific to her. Is there anything else I can be doing? Or is she possibly just a less healthy goat? Though she acts normal I am concerned and want her to be healthy & in good shape to hopefully breed in the fall.
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Thank you in advance!! I appreciate you all.


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What grain? What is supplement pellets? BOSS and sunflower seeds? How much of both sunflower seeds are she getting per day?
She was getting a specific goat blend and now a general ruminant blend from our local co op for grain. I looked at the bag and what I’ve been calling ‘supplement pellets’ is manna pro goat balancer. She gets BOSS & pumpkin seeds, not BOSS & Sunflower seeds, good catch. She gets about a tablespoon of sunflower seeds a day mixed w her grain & pumpkin seeds. Thanks for clarifying those things! I’ll adjust the original post.
 

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I would use up what you have of the goat balancer and stop it. It really doesn't do much. I'd also do probiotics daily and do that indefinitely. Can you post the label for your grain?
 

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She doesn't look bad to me! It takes some time for them to get back in good health especially with having recently kidded. I would continue with a good goat grain (we like Kalmbach Milk and Meat), hay, water, and minerals. I don't add extras to the grain as I'm a believer that they're designed to have the correct ratios as they are. You can feed alfalfa pellets free choice as well and that will put weight on. Lead up to free choice though, they typically love the alfalfa pellets and will gorge on them and get an upset stomach so go slow. If you still don't see the results you want you can add a top dress like purina heavy weight. It's made for show animals but is good for fattening up any animal that's not an easy keeper.
 

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She doesn't look to bad - wait a few months from when she got her last bolus and see how she looks. She looks to be in a fine weight to me. The flaky skin is likely zinc or vitamin related - I would add TruCare4 top dress mineral blend for some extra copper and selenium, and I would also add cod liver oil (0.45cc per 10lbs) once a day for three days then twice weekly thereafter for a few weeks. See if there's any change.
 

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My "black" or "red " goats get their copper boluses every 3 months. I go by their weight to give them copper on top of their feed. During my goats shedding of winter to summer coats. They look.awful with the drying hair getting ready to shed. Once they shed put, the hair is nice. If not,,I check their skin for lice, mites,
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or any parasite. If none, I do a fecal. If worming is required, I go by weight. If they dont need that I give them an Vitc drench with a zinc tablet. Then I wait 2 weeks to see any changes. If no hair changes they get electrolytes in their water+ apple cider vinegar for 3 days. That usually clears mine up.
 

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She doesn't look bad to me! It takes some time for them to get back in good health especially with having recently kidded. I would continue with a good goat grain (we like Kalmbach Milk and Meat), hay, water, and minerals. I don't add extras to the grain as I'm a believer that they're designed to have the correct ratios as they are. You can feed alfalfa pellets free choice as well and that will put weight on. Lead up to free choice though, they typically love the alfalfa pellets and will gorge on them and get an upset stomach so go slow. If you still don't see the results you want you can add a top dress like purina heavy weight. It's made for show animals but is good for fattening up any animal that's not an easy keeper.
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She doesn't look to bad - wait a few months from when she got her last bolus and see how she looks. She looks to be in a fine weight to me. The flaky skin is likely zinc or vitamin related - I would add TruCare4 top dress mineral blend for some extra copper and selenium, and I would also add cod liver oil (0.45cc per 10lbs) once a day for three days then twice weekly thereafter for a few weeks. See if there's any change.
Thanks for the suggestions! Do I need a specific type of cod liver oil? Drench or on top of feed?
 

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My "black" or "red " goats get their copper boluses every 3 months. I go by their weight to give them copper on top of their feed. During my goats shedding of winter to summer coats. They look.awful with the drying hair getting ready to shed. Once they shed put, the hair is nice. If not,,I check their skin for lice, mites, View attachment 209188 or any parasite. If none, I do a fecal. If worming is required, I go by weight. If they dont need that I give them an Vitc drench with a zinc tablet. Then I wait 2 weeks to see any changes. If no hair changes they get electrolytes in their water+ apple cider vinegar for 3 days. That usually clears mine up.
Thanks for sharing! Is there a specific kind of zinc tablet you use?
 

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For cod liver oil, gel caps are great for babies but you will need larger dose for adults. Find a liquid form.
Zinc..we buy drops. It's easy to give but any 50 mg pill is fine..if they don't eat freely..can crush and add to water and drench it.
For my herd
I make a mix of wheat germ oil and Flax seed in a bit if coconut oil and feed about a tablespoon 1-2x a day. Helps that dry flaky skin.
 

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For cod liver oil, gel caps are great for babies but you will need larger dose for adults. Find a liquid form.
Zinc..we buy drops. It's easy to give but any 50 mg pill is fine..if they don't eat freely..can crush and add to water and drench it.
For my herd
I make a mix of wheat germ oil and Flax seed in a bit if coconut oil and feed about a tablespoon 1-2x a day. Helps that dry flaky skin.
Thank you!!
 
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