vets grr

Discussion in 'The Chatter Box' started by AlaskaBoers, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    I'm trying to get Bo-Se (RX)
    apparently they need to establish a 'geniune' vet-client relationship. (BS, I just need to get BO-Se thank you very much)

    any tips for getting this stuff? there are NO goat vets here, so I do all of my own vet work, i don't (almost ever) talk with vets. :GAAH:
     
  2. myfainters

    myfainters New Member

    Oct 29, 2009
    Lancaster, CA
    Wish that I could help. Unfortunately, most vets are like that....they just want to collect more $. :(
     

  3. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    i've called mutliple offices, it will eventually become some strage drug smuggling operation for goat breeders to keep their goats healthy.

    "Sorry, we've never seen any of your animals, and we don't carry Bo-Se, keep trying"

    of course you haven't seen my animals *They are HEALTHY*... well, they won't be if I don't get the Bo-Se.
     
  4. ChestnutGrove

    ChestnutGrove New Member

    265
    Apr 29, 2009
    Tennessee
    Don't you just hate that - I guess just keep calling around? It would be stupid if you had to take an animal to the vet or have them come out just to get some BoSe. Good luck - vets can be a royal pain sometimes - the good ones are priceless!
     
  5. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    personally I would ask if you brought one goat in if you could buy a bottle. Thats kind of how I ended up with my bottle of banamine. I was at the office and he proscribed banamine and asked "do you have some?" and I said "No" and he was like "would you like a bottle?"

    Might be something you will have to take one goat in to have checked - either for a fecal or say I need BoSe for her/him. And then ask to purchase a whole bottle instead of just one shot.

    The office assistants wont tell you if you can do that or not over the phone more then likely so ask to speak to the vet. They will probably tell you that he is busy so explain you need him to call you back. And then keep calling till you get to speak to him. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
     
  6. Farmgirl675

    Farmgirl675 New Member

    252
    Oct 21, 2010
    Here's a suggestion.

    Find a large animal vet, companion animal vets hate to "give" anything (at least around here). I realize you probably don't have cows but tell them you need BoSe for your newborn calves (BoSe is the same formula for all animals). BoSe is given to all calves by every farmer I know. That is how I get mine, I do have cattle. I have found that I can walk into any large animal vets office and ask for it and they say "how big of a bottle do you need". Not sure it will work for you but it's worth a try. I have found that most vets seem to know cattle (sometimes horses) and that most cattle farmers do alot of their own vetting and are happy to help. I think they see dollar signs and hope that when you need a vet to come out that you'll call them!

    Another though>>> if you know anyone who raises cows find out if they can help you.

    Hope that helps!!
     
  7. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    good idea
    except there aren't many cows around here!

    I did tell them I give it to all of my newborn kids at birth, didn't work. I have a friend helping me out now. ;)
     
  8. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    I am glad you are getting help from a friend.... it seems like..most vets are only out for one thing ..."money" it is so sad...when they know that baby goats do need it at birth sometimes... :(
     
  9. MissMM

    MissMM New Member

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    Oct 22, 2007
    McGregor, MN
    I got very lucky when it comes to getting goat meds. Before VetServ got shut down (I'd still like to find the person that caused it & meet up with them in a back alley somewhere), I bought anything & everything I might think I need and would know how to safely administer. If I needed anything now that's not in the med cabinet, I'd have a serious problem.
     
  10. sweetgoats

    sweetgoats Moderator

    Oct 18, 2007
    Peyton CO.
    I hate to disagree with you all, but I think it is very important that you establish a relationship with your vet. They have to cover their butts. If he just gave you the Bo Se (or any drug that is Rx) and you overdosed your goats, I am sure there are lots of people out there that would sue over it.

    I have a great realtionship with my vet but it has taken time and I do not blame him, am I happy about it no, but that is his job and he is just covering his butt. Way way to many sue happy people.

    I still can not get a Rx of banamine, even though he knows me. H is just careful
     
  11. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    i agree, they DO need to charge people, it's a business.
    BUT a breeder shoulg not have to jump through hoops, There aren't any vets who will even look at a goat in my area. So when i call somewhere it's ALWAYS "Oh, we can't do it, and it's a goat and we don't treat them anyway"
     
  12. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    That is why.... vets have instructions on the labels to go by... it is a vitamin for deficient animals.... and should be given to breeders that will need it..... and have on hand..... it is like epinephrine...that drug to... should be on hand always.... but ....they want to see an animal ....in order for you to get that drug? It isn't like an animal needs it.... at that moment.....they want to see that animal...it's like why?....we want that drug or vitamin there ... if needed.. :scratch: ....that is not right....IMO...... Especially If ....the vet won't see or treat a goat... they should at least give it to someone... that knows.. what it is for and how to use it....which we breeders do know...and know what signs to look for ...like a newborn needing a little shot of it.... to straighten their legs.... or is not getting up on it's own....it sure would cost alot to have a vet come out on a farm call ....cause I sure wouldn't take in the newbies and momma ...to stress them out.... to a vet to let them tell me....what I already know.... :shades: :doh:
    I also know Bo-Se.... is strong.... ...and know vets have to cover their butt.... but I don't understand why.... they have to see an animal ...that is deficient and the breeder already knows.... that is what it is....but wants you... to bring in that animal to charge ...this fee and that fee.... over charging you.... just to tell you the goat needs a bo-se shot..... very aggravating..... It would be even worse if.... I was told...I cannot and will not ...see or treat goats..... and on top of that won't help save them ....by selling a bottle of Bo-Se......to a knowledgeable breeder.......... I am sorry Katrina........ they are not very nice vets there....I always thought ....vets cared about saving lives..... no matter what kind of animal it was ....or is......... I am on your side... :hug:
     
  13. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    thanks pam :)
    I am planning on becoming a large livestock veterinarian, I hope that I can help people, and animals. I'm sure most vets really DO care about the animals, but they IMO make it more difficult than need be to keep animals healthy. idk
     
  14. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Your welcome Katrina.... I have seen new vets... that truly care and so compassionate about... what they do and represent........to a few years down the road........ get really greedy and not care as much ... they just want their money.... it is sad....but does happen........ :(


    I commend you... :thumb: ... for wanting to be a vet though....Go for it...~! :thumbup: I see you as being a great one.... that will always care...... not all vets are bad..... but to the ones... that are the best of what they do ...are priceless..... :thumb: :wink: :greengrin:
     
  15. GoldenSeal

    GoldenSeal New Member

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    Sep 13, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    In Canada you can buy it at the livestock store. You don't need a vets permission to get it. On the bottle it
    Does say vet use only but you can still buy it at your local feed store.
     
  16. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    I'm lucky, I just tell my vet I need it for my goats and he sells it. He has been out here and has visited me at the fair and whatnot so I guess I do have a decent relationship with him. He's also been out quite a few times for horse stuff. Where we are though it is a lot of livestock farmers and he has doctored a couple of my goats.

    I can understand though that a vet would need to know a little more about your goats or whatnot, but that is frustrating for sure! Wish I could help!
     
  17. Epona142

    Epona142 The farm that Hope began

    May 25, 2008
    Madisonville, TX
    That must be nice! I'm having a bit of trouble getting it myself. About to try a big cattle vet
     
  18. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Yes, it is very nice. His office is also located just like 6 miles away so very convenient. I think the large animal/livestock vets seem more understanding when you tell them you need it for your goats. City vets just don't get it.
     
  19. Polarhug

    Polarhug New Member

    263
    Jul 1, 2010
    Southcentral Alaska
    That works when there is actually a vet to have a relationship with. There are no livestock vets here in my area of Alaska either. Theres one 70 miles away who leaves for the winter, and one mobile vet who you can't ever get a hold of and his nickname is "kevorkian or the butcher" because half the animals he treats end up dead.
     
  20. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    ok Goldenseal you want to be our "drug dealer" ? Just kidding :p