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Was it coccidia? 1 year old doe died at the same day she was borned

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I have previous threads in which I show concern about the growth of our first time kids. They maybe growing slowly but they don't seem to have any health problem like no diarrhea and other symptoms through out. Last week it was a nightmare. Firstly I dewormed all the goat with Albendazole dewormer. After 2 days, on Tuesday night she started showing laziness and won't eat. The next day, she didn't eat at all. I wasn't at home so someone else was taking care. So he messaged me. When I came back at night she was lazy and was looking constipated. So I let her walk out. I thought she will be ok because she wasn't bloated but if I hold her stomach from bottom it looks full. I also found out she was having black tar type sticky poop but in very small amount like 1-2 whole day. No temperature at all.
The next day, Thursday I called 3 vets and they weren't willing to come. So one suggested me to give her vitamims orally, a medicine used by human also which B complex and C complex. So I give her that but nothing changed. Called another vet, he said to give a mixture of some herbal things which is used to clear and solve stomach related issues. I told him please visit us but he said its not needed. I give her that syrup and things get quite improved. She started eating small bit and she did more black poop. I thought now things are going well. All this time she was walking ok but was lazy.
At night time when I went to check her, I was devastated to found out that her condition was deteriorated too much. She was standing and when I pick her up, she was having weakness shivers. She wants to sit and was having breathing difficulty also like a small hiccup. I also give her kleen enema from back but she excreted a small amount of black tar poop. I went to a vet at late night, he said she will not survive but he can try. He give an injection
and a drench of something to force her empty her stomach. But that causes too much weakness as she was trying to poop and her whole body was getting shocks when she was trying to force out. And then he died almost within in an hour at night.
One more thing is everyone else are totally fine.
Now after searching on google about tarry stool, I am thinking maybe it was coccidiosis but why she hasn't have watery diarrhea.
This picture isn't that much clear but poop was moist and very sticky. And I have seen traces of blood at her back but I thought it was beacuse of hard stool.
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Oh im sorry sorry you lost her. Such a beautiful girl.
You can have that poop checked for coccidia/parasites. It may offer some answers. It's hard for us to guess what happened as it could be parasites.anemia, pneumonia or a list of other things. I'm very sorry.
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Oh im sorry sorry you lost her. Such a beautiful girl.
You can have that poop checked for coccidia/parasites. It may offer some answers. It's hard for us to guess what happened as it could be parasites.anemia, pneumonia or a list of other things. I'm very sorry.
We don't have lab facility here. Don't even have microscope at home. If I would have, I maybe able to make slides as I have done in my biology lab during studies.
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Oh im sorry sorry you lost her. Such a beautiful girl.
You can have that poop checked for coccidia/parasites. It may offer some answers. It's hard for us to guess what happened as it could be parasites.anemia, pneumonia or a list of other things. I'm very sorry.
Can you guide me can coccidia cause this type of constipation and stool? Because most common symptom is runny diarrhea
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Coccidia doesn't necessarily present as watery stool. Very dark stool can be coccidia. But could she have eaten something poisonous?
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Can you guide me can coccidia cause this type of constipation and stool? Because most common symptom is runny diarrhea
Yes..Karen is correct. Coccidia normally causes scours but not always. Poop will normally be super dark to black.
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We don't have lab facility here. Don't even have microscope at home. If I would have, I maybe able to make slides as I have done in my biology lab during studies.
That sure makes it hard to know what your are dealing with. I'm very sorry
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I’m very sorry about your loss.
I agree on the poop, sadly I learned that the hard way in the past. Is there any way you can get a microscope? If not ask your vets if they can do fecals. It doesn’t have to be a lab, just anyone that can use a microscope.
Eating something bad is not out of the question. Black usually mean blood. I would check all sources of her feed. Again I am very sorry for your loss
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I too am sorry you lost her. :(

It is so hard to get answers of what happened, without checking fecal for worms and cocci.
If that is the case, the other goats are at risk as well.
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What a pretty goat. I'm sorry you lost her.

Have you heard of a foldscope? It is a simple microscope made from paper and lenses. It's advertised for students in the US, but it was originally designed by a scientist at Stanford as an affordable microscope that could be used out in the field or in low resource situations. (They also have a centrifuge you can make yourself from paper and string!) I work with some pretty fancy microscopes at my job, but we bought a pack of foldscopes to play with and they really do work decently. There are videos of both the foldscope and the paperfuge on youtube.

It seems like a foldscope can be used to see coccidia. See here and here and this paper here. You might be able to do your own fecals with one. If you check they may be available locally in your country. Based on the flag under your name I found this, but I had to search for it in English. You might be able to find a better option.
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My big doe also having same issue. Yesterday night , she was normal but from morning she is not eating anything. I talk her to the biggest veterinary hospital in my city. She gives her 2 injections. One of them was endrofloxin. Also he give us Bliss Carminative Mixture to give ger half bottle. But now it's evening and she is still not eating. Almost similar to the previous case except that till now she is having normal poop. But ger urine was dark so I give her molasses mixed water which she drank.

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What is her temperature? Did the vet do a fecal test to check for parasites?
☝ I agree, we need a temp and if a fecal for worms and cocci was done.
What is her temperature? Did the vet do a fecal test to check for parasites?
He did check the temp and it was 99°
He didn't do fecal
I called him few minutes ago
He said I should give him gripe water
So i have given her 75 ml gripe water
99 degrees Fahrenheit? That is a low temperature. Normal is 101.5 to 103.5 F. That means her rumen needs help, she needs to warm up. Give probiotics at least once daily and it is also good to inject B vitamins twice daily. If you can get some dark beer (like Guinness stout) that is very good to give her to restore her rumen health.

Can you get the vet to do a fecal test to check for parasites? Have you checked her eye membrane color to see if she is anemic?

What are you feeding her? Sick goats shouldn't get grain, hay and leaves are good for them. Make sure she is drinking too
99 degrees Fahrenheit? That is a low temperature. Normal is 101.5 to 103.5 F. That means her rumen needs help, she needs to warm up. Give probiotics at least once daily and it is also good to inject B vitamins twice daily. If you can get some dark beer (like Guinness stout) that is very good to give her to restore her rumen health.

Can you get the vet to do a fecal test to check for parasites? Have you checked her eye membrane color to see if she is anemic?

What are you feeding her? Sick goats shouldn't get grain, hay and leaves are good for them. Make sure she is drinking too
We don't have probiotics here. She is still the same not eating, grinding her teeths. She isn't pooping so I don't think we can do fecal and even vet didn't wanted to do one. She isn't bloated but don't know what's happening to her.
Why vet can't identify here what actually happening?
I am very sad as it doesn't looking to end well. 24 hour has passed without she eating anything. I am not giving her grains. Simple leaves but even she isn't in mood to eat grains for which she would get mad. I am going to sleep.
One thing I am noticing is she is peeing dark. Even I have given her molasses water and she has it by her side.
Do you have activated charcoal?
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