Okey dokey, so we have Lola who is due 2/1/08 as her first 145, if she took on her 5 day heat she would be due 1/5/08...lol she did time it perfectly dident she lol!! SO I will be getting pictures tomarrow when I copper boluse everyone. Her udder isent full yet and she has dropped. She has had some discharge off and on for the last couple of days, well for the past week I would say. I hate to say it but with her ligaments being as hard as they are I am afraid that she is going to wait till the 5th or after I mean they are softer but not as soft as they should be. SHe is loosening up tho! SO tomarrow I will have pics for everyone! And cross your fingers for does!