Yes, they are pretty, but size wise? I can't figure out how big they are by looking at them... The mom looks like she is medium, and the buckling looks like he might end up being fairly large, but I don't know much about growing goats so... My own Alpine doe is 31 inches at the withers, don't know how big that is compared to others, I just know she is way bigger than others I have seen. Edit: here is what she told me about the doe. "Measured Kathleen and she was between 26 and 27 inches at the withers. Not really sure how this measures up to the others you have seen. Don't know if Kathleen will grow anymore. She was born 1-31-08, so that makes her 1 yrs 3-1/2 months old. Good luck in you search." Bruno the buckling is 4 months old. Here are the pics she sent me: These guys are papered, the doe is dreamfinder kathleen? Dunno.