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What the babies are going to look like?? Best guesses...

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Dam, Nigerian Dwarf (Josephine) is a broken buckskin (tricolor), beautiful blue eyes, naturally polled, frosted tricolor ears and nose, has thrown broken buckskin, tricolor babies in the past (pics of previous babies attached) She has wattles. Both of her parents had blue eyes, but unsure what color they were.

Sire, Nigerian Dwarf (Enzo) is San Clemente (classic buckskin), blue eyes, horned, first time breeder (Josephine is the first doe he has ever bred), his dam was gold with brown eyes, his sire was black and tan swiss marked with blue eyes. He doesn't have wattles.

What are yalls guesses as to what the babies will be? What color? Horned or polled? Blue eyes or brown eyes? Wattles or none (please have wattles, I ADORE wattles) Josie is due in May so I'm making this thread so I don't go crazy in the meantime waiting on her to give birth.

First two pics are of Dam, second two are of Sire, last two are of her previous babies.
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Awww they are so cute, with similar patterns. Im guessing white bellies, with large black spots. Some with red background, some with tan.
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Oo genetics excite me! Since we don’t know the colours of the does parents, we can only guess that she’s at least passing on her phenotype which is buckskin. Her genotype is unknown, so really it could be a toss up of anything! Who was she bred with last year? With the buck, he’s obviously also got a copy of buckskin, and potentially either gold or Swiss. I think it would be super cool if he passed down the Swiss markings, those are my favourite! 😉 There’s at least a 50% chance of buckskin though, and because both parents are blue eyed along with the dams parents both being blue eyed, I’m going to guess 100% on the blue eyed trait. Since their past kids were buckskin, blue eyed and polled, I’m going to say that at least one or two kids will be buckskin, blue eyed, and maybe one polled. I don’t know about the wattles, since according to another breeder in my area they’re hard to pass down. That, or she just has that kind of luck.

my final guess: two kids, one buckskin and one gold. Buckskin will look like his sire, have blue eyes and a few white spots. Horned. Golden one will be a doeling and she will also be blue eyed, but polled and have some broken white across her. Maybe some wattles!
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Oo genetics excite me! Since we don’t know the colours of the does parents, we can only guess that she’s at least passing on her phenotype which is buckskin. Her genotype is unknown, so really it could be a toss up of anything! Who was she bred with last year? With the buck, he’s obviously also got a copy of buckskin, and potentially either gold or Swiss. I think it would be super cool if he passed down the Swiss markings, those are my favourite! 😉 There’s at least a 50% chance of buckskin though, and because both parents are blue eyed along with the dams parents both being blue eyed, I’m going to guess 100% on the blue eyed trait. Since their past kids were buckskin, blue eyed and polled, I’m going to say that at least one or two kids will be buckskin, blue eyed, and maybe one polled. I don’t know about the wattles, since according to another breeder in my area they’re hard to pass down. That, or she just has that kind of luck.

my final guess: two kids, one buckskin and one gold. Buckskin will look like his sire, have blue eyes and a few white spots. Horned. Golden one will be a doeling and she will also be blue eyed, but polled and have some broken white across her. Maybe some wattles!
thank you for such a detailed response, genetics have never been my forte, so thank you for your help!! ill def keep you updated!
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thank you for such a detailed response, genetics have never been my forte, so thank you for your help!! ill def keep you updated!
Of course! I recommend watching Weedemandreap’s video on colour genetics, it’s super in depth and very interesting!
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Of course! I recommend watching Weedemandreap’s video on colour genetics, it’s super in depth and very interesting!
I actually follow them on YT and watched that video 😆
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Of course! I recommend watching Weedemandreap’s video on colour genetics, it’s super in depth and very interesting!
I loved the effort she put into the video! Unfortunately, it does have some inaccuracies. I highly recommend also checking out Dr Sponenberg’s research. He’s goes very in-depth with his findings.
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I have no clue but they will be gorgeous!! 🥰
I have one in April and one in May.. I’m already dying to have baby goats!!
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I have no clue but they will be gorgeous!! 🥰
I have one in April and one in May.. I’m already dying to have baby goats!!
My breeding season was VERY spread out, I have one due any day now, one due may, two due June, two due July!
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That’s gonna be fun!!
Do you have a waiting thread? If so I’ll follow along!
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That’s gonna be fun!!
Do you have a waiting thread? If so I’ll follow along!
Only one for the doe due this month, it’s titled ‘Notre Lee’s kidding thread’ I think
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What are yalls guesses as to what the babies will be? What color? Horned or polled? Blue eyes or brown eyes? Wattles or none (please have wattles, I ADORE wattles) Josie is due in May so I'm making this thread so I don't go crazy in the meantime waiting on her to give birth.
Okay I am ready to guess!!

Josephine could be three options: Buckskin/Black, Buckskin/Sundgau, or Buckskin/Buckskin, since we don't know her parents. She is B/B or B/b for Eyes, W/W or W/w for Wattles, and P/P or P/p for Horns.

Enzo is Buckskin/Black because he is visibly not carrying Swiss, and Buckskins cannot carry Gold. He is B/b for Eyes, w/w for Wattles, and p/p for Horns.

Keeping all color combinations in mind for Josephine's pattern...
Per kid, there is a...

Pattern:
  • 75% to 100% chance of Buckskin
  • 0% to 25% chance of Black
  • 0% to 25% chance of Sundgau

Eyes:
  • 50% to 100% chance for blue eyes
Wattles:
  • 50% to 100% chance for wattles (only 50% chance if one of Josephine's parents didn't have wattles)
Horns:
  • 50% to 100% chance to be polled (only 50% chance if one of Josephine's parents wasn't polled)

I'm guessing twins. Statistically likely to both be buckskins. One with blue eyes, and one with brown. One with horns, and one polled. One with wattles, and one without. Let us know what you get! :love:
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Okay I am ready to guess!!

Josephine could be three options: Buckskin/Black, Buckskin/Sundgau, or Buckskin/Buckskin, since we don't know her parents. She is B/B or B/b for Eyes, W/W or W/w for Wattles, and P/P or P/p for Horns.

Enzo is Buckskin/Black because he is visibly not carrying Swiss, and Buckskins cannot carry Gold. He is B/b for Eyes, w/w for Wattles, and p/p for Horns.

Keeping all color combinations in mind for Josephine's pattern...
Per kid, there is a...

Pattern:
  • 75% to 100% chance of Buckskin
  • 0% to 25% chance of Black
  • 0% to 25% chance of Sundgau

Eyes:
  • 50% to 100% chance for blue eyes
Wattles:
  • 50% to 100% chance for wattles (only 50% chance if one of Josephine's parents didn't have wattles)
Horns:
  • 50% to 100% chance to be polled (only 50% chance if one of Josephine's parents wasn't polled)

I'm guessing twins. Statistically likely to both be buckskins. One with blue eyes, and one with brown. One with horns, and one polled. One with wattles, and one without. Let us know what you get! :love:
This is very interesting!! Love to learn more about genetics, I’ll have to keep doing my research :)
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I think you should update this thread!
I saw Josephine had two beautiful doelings!! 🥰
What are their colours, patterns, and wattle status?
(I know you are not sure about horned or polled yet.)
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I agree☝. @Kaitlyn can you put pics of the twins on here? Thankyou
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Thank you @MadHouse! I was trying to find this thread unsuccessfully 😅

doeling #1 is a dark buckskin, white poll, blue eyes, a small white patch under her front left leg. Otherwise unmarked. Personality wise she’s a mellow little girl and is very sweet.
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Doeling #2 is a beautiful light reddish buckskin, white poll, blue eyes, frosted ears and nose, random white speckling along her sides, round white spot over her hip almost like a moon spot but very little. Personality wise she’s the spunky one of the two and love love loves to be cuddled.
Eye Goat Fawn Terrestrial animal Goat-antelope
Working animal Fawn Terrestrial animal Snout Grass
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both babies ended up having wattles😍
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Thank you!!
They are both beautiful! The waddles are the icing on the (cup)cakes !
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They are adorable- I’m glad you got your waddles!
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Aww 😊
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Those are so cute!
I have a "sweater" buckling that we are retaining. I hope he turns out as handsome as your boy.
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