What to do

Discussion in 'Goat Frenzy' started by TheMixedBag, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    I'm being offered a nice Nubian doe for $150. It sounds really nice, especially when he said she's produced a national champion before, but I really don't know what I want to do.

    The big issues are these-she's related to Milky Way, out of the same herd, and with the same issues. She's overweight, founders all the time, and tested positive twice for CAE and negative 3 times, all while being asymptomatic. She is over 4, so I'm betting she really is negative. My biggest issue would be the foundering. I'm having enough trouble fixing the feet on the goats I have, and have no experience with founder, at all.

    The other issue would be that I'd have to sell Maverick, but I may be able to convince my husband to let me get a milking machine with the money off the kids (I'll have 3 does milking come March, she'd make 4). Selling him wouldn't be that big an issue, but he's my only buck, and I don't know if I can afford to pull and run all the tests I'd need to get them all bred to the bucks I want, and I already know her and Milky Way probably wouldn't be accepted because they did test positive.

    On the plus side, she did produce a national champion, milks well, and would probably cross nicely onto a boer buck for some good meat kids. She's also a super easy keeper (as shown by her being overweight and foundering).
     
  2. 4hmama

    4hmama New Member

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    Jan 9, 2009
    No. Central WV
    Ask yourself this question...is getting the doe worth the problems that you are getting with her. Make a pro/con list and make your decision from there. If she did produce a nat'l champion - it's impossible to tell how many of that goat's good qualities it inherited from her, and how much from the sire. If you have a clean, easy herd, I don't think I'd take the chance on her...a good deal isn't a good deal if you are going to end up spending more money than you will recoup. Good luck making your decision.
     

  3. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    Problem feet? Over 4 years old? $150....hmmm... I think honestly if it were me I'd put a little extra $$ together and get a non problematic, younger doe with a nice pedigree. JMO, but I have friends with horses that are prone to foundering, and it's nothing I'd ever want to go through with any animal.
     
  4. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    I'm already getting the younger, non-problematic doe (it's been shoved back to March so they can kid her out and not have to worry about me calling frantically at 3 in the morning), she's just a cheap doe he thought I might have been interested in. I figured if I could get the weight off her, the foundering issues wouldn't be a problem, but the issue is getting the weight off. Milky Way's already dropped a few pounds, but this girl is pushing 200lb (counting her preggo weight, of course).
     
  5. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    As long as you know what your getting yourself into, then it's your call :) Good Luck on whatever you choose to do!
     
  6. goathappy

    goathappy New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Illinois
    Sorry but when somebody says they're selling a goat that produced a national champion I have to ask which national champion? Give me a name and a picture. Most breeders won't sell animals that produce national champions, they usually keep them around to get more of those genetics in the herd, and if they do sell them it's not for $150. Just my .02 cents........
     
  7. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    I honestly don't know. I only know that her name is Xtacy, and I'd have to get the rest of her information the next time I go to work. They guy who's selling her is still sorting out paperwork on all the does he got from Texas, and it might take a while to find out what she really did (or probably didn't) produce.

    As far as if she did, I'd believe it. Aside from being as wide as a bus, she did have great conformation, just bad weight issues and foot issues. He doesn't want to keep her because he already has her genetics in his herd, several times through.
     
  8. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Sarah is right. If that doe produced a national champion, I highly doubt they'd be asking $150 for her unless she is in REALLY poor shape or isn't producing anything, etc. That tells you a lot right there and would make me VERY nervous about purchasing her.

    This doe sounds like more trouble than she is worth. What's the does name? My 2 cents, don't get her...save up for something better.