when do you all breed your FF does?

Discussion in 'Show Circuit' started by KLSpoultry, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. KLSpoultry

    KLSpoultry New Member

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    Dec 14, 2008
    Omaha, NE
    My girl is 4 months now, but I'd like to show her next year as a FF, when is the best time to breed her? I was thinking November, but i'd like to know what everyone else does?
     
  2. sealawyer

    sealawyer New Member

    366
    May 31, 2009
    Dew, Texas
    I knowed I'm gonna appear to be a dumb Texas hick that I actually am by asking this question, what do you mean by FF? I ain't the fastest dog in the hunt! Fred V.
     

  3. Thanatos

    Thanatos New Member

    937
    Mar 16, 2009
    Lake Ariel, Pa
    First freshener..... And for a show for her to qualify as a FF does't she need to be in milk and less then 2 years old?

    so I would say either OCT or Nov
     
  4. goathappy

    goathappy New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Illinois
    For showing, there are yearling milker classes, and classes for 2-3 years, and a doe can be a FF 2 year old and still be shown in the 2-3 year old class.

    Personally, I wait until they are at least 8 months, then at least 80-90 lbs. I only breed doelings that are steady growers, if they are not steady growers but grow in spurts, then I will not breed them.
     
  5. sweetgoats

    sweetgoats Moderator

    Oct 18, 2007
    Peyton CO.

    Hey I know we have all thought that some thing at one time or another. So hey I guess we are all hicks.

    I am not a diary person so I have no idea about all this. I try to wain until my does are two when they kid or very close to it. I did have all my what I call babies have babies right around their first birthday or right after it.
     
  6. liz

    liz Active Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    With my mini girls I like to wait until the fall after they turn a year old....I know that some breeders do so earlier but I like the peace of mind it gives me to have them kid at or around their 2nd birthday.
     
  7. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    it depends on her size and growth.. even if you want to show her as a FF you have to keep in mind that if she isn't ready to be bred, she shouldn't be

    I breed my kids as yearlings, some even as 2 year olds.
     
  8. K-Ro

    K-Ro New Member

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    Oct 13, 2007
    Texas
    For the large dairy breeds I stick to the 8 month/80lb rule as long as they are growing steadily.
     
  9. nancy d

    nancy d Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    near Seattle
    Our minimum law is 10 mos & 100 lbs, this is with Boers. By the time they get there its past breeding season & no bucks around so they are almost 2yrs old when they first kid.
     
  10. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    depends on what breed you are talking about. Some nigerian does can be bred at 9 months while others do better at 11-12 months while others best to give them even more time to grow.

    for standard dairy goats I used as was stated 8months/or 80lbs as my rule of thumb for breeding.
     
  11. KLSpoultry

    KLSpoultry New Member

    89
    Dec 14, 2008
    Omaha, NE
    guess i'll wait and see how she looks at 8 months, i'll also post pictures and ask you guys/gals again

    here she is @ 2 months and again at 4, what do you think? is she growing well?

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  12. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    she looks to be growing good. and she's cute. :wink:


    I use my instinct- if they are growing steadily then I breed at 85-90 lbs. and if they are a bit slower then i'll wait till I think it's safe.
     
  13. sealawyer

    sealawyer New Member

    366
    May 31, 2009
    Dew, Texas
    Thanks to you all for being patient with this dumb Texas Boer Breeder. I don't know a lot about the dairy breeds. Since we raise our goats on primarily pasture almost year round, they gow a tad bit slower than goats on feed. The doelings get creep fed until they are 3-4 months old. We usually don't breed until one to one and one half years old. We wait this long to allow their body to catch up to their reproductive system and we have less problems with the birthings. Out of 19 does that kidded in may we didn't have to help any of them and only lost two kids out of 38.
     
  14. sparks879

    sparks879 New Member

    I typically breed all my yearlings, personaly i dont like dry yearlings. If they are 80 lbs by november i breed them. I hate waiting another year. I keep al of my doe kids every year and then try and breed them. I hate it when i have kids after the end of april because then i usually have to wait.
    I feel this way because i like to get an idea of how my does are going to freshen before i sell them. So i keep all doe kids typically five to eight, and then freshen them come spring. I start weeding out the not so great ones. I get my numbers down to one or two. I only can keep a herd of fifteen or so so this works pretty well.
    beth
     
  15. ksacres

    ksacres New Member

    161
    Oct 30, 2007
    San Antonio Texas
    8 months or 80 pounds is what we go by. We raise standards, I know a lot of mini breeders wait longer.
     
  16. keren

    keren owned by goats

    Oct 26, 2008
    Australia
    If they are well grown, and you can keep the nutrition up to them, you can breed them early to KID DOWN at 13 months. I've done it very successfully, but you need to have top notch nutrition and management
     
  17. KLSpoultry

    KLSpoultry New Member

    89
    Dec 14, 2008
    Omaha, NE
    OH, she has EXCELLENT nutrition :slapfloor:

    my goats are more spoiled than most peoples children. i think i'm going to take a bit of everyones advice and see how much she weighs at 8 months and go from there. i'd really like to not have her dry another year, but i dont want to jeopardize her health either.

    i'd say she weighs 40-50 pounds now at 4 months, so i'm thinking she'll be ready this year, even if she's 80 pounds at 8 months, i'm still waiting till November to breed her

    hopefully my buck (who is 2 weeks older than my doe) is ready to breed then too :ROFL:
     
  18. ksacres

    ksacres New Member

    161
    Oct 30, 2007
    San Antonio Texas
    That's the real challange LOL

    I have had boys that didn't realize they were boys until long after I'd had need of them!
     
  19. RowdyKidz

    RowdyKidz Senior Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    NW Ohio
    Mine are bred around the ageof 1 and 1/2