which pairing....

Discussion in 'Mini Mania' started by daisymay, Sep 14, 2020.

  1. daisymay

    daisymay Well-Known Member

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    Feb 13, 2017
    oregon
    so with all these fires i have extra time on my hands since i am not outside as much.
    I have a doe who im excited to see her kid.

    her name is adga sandstone ridge cc destination buckskin with a tiny moon spot will be two year old first fresher in 2021
    her sire is castle rock pinpoint clover*B (he has a few milking daughters, seems to stamp more dairy on his kids and length)
    her sires sire is crf castle rock harvest moon
    her sires dam is SGCH castle rock owls clover
    her dam is CH old mountain farm intuition 1*M(coarse)
    her dams sire is old mountain farm endurance
    her dams dam is old mountain farm Tsukiko

    so i have her sire which is why she wasnt bred earlier in the year.
    i have a newish buckling who will likely be ready to rock and roll after the smoke clears...he is chocolate in color
    his sire is oak apple ciaran (wasnt able to see him but breeder likes him)
    his sire sire is SG old mountain farm cernunnos (he was a nice buck)
    his sires dam is oak apple mary b 1*m (still slightly immature)
    his dam is SG old mountain farm Mizuki (milk and udder has held up plus good conformation)
    his dams sire is old mountain farm Hakama*B*S
    his dams dam is SG NC promisedland Palita (milk)
    so if i breed these two together Mizuki and Tsukiko are siblings.
    this doe is more dairy then her dam which is great and seems to be the biggest thing about her dam. would that be a good cross?

    or i have a buckling who didnt sell this summer and i have his older dam-he is a buckskin with roan points and blue eyes.
    his sire is purplerain blue mountain sage(yearling)
    his sires sire is dragonfly hlj mustafa (died this year :( )
    his sires dam is camanna hs blue morning glory (three year old love her udder) could use less angle in rump)
    his dam is SG blythmoor bz masala 3*M (lovely conformation overall but more coarse)
    his dams dam is SGCH blythmoor HW spice
    his dams sire is GCH pecan hollow zc bazinga (love this guy la well and longer life)
    this guy is younger then the one buckling above. he also has blue eyes which is always a plus when selling wethers. but masala is a larger framed doe. actually she is the only large framed doe i have. she isnt over height.

    so who should i use? I know the first buckling likely will possibly produce more "milky" kids. opionions would be awesome. i will try to get a few photos up even though they are not that great.
     
  2. GodsGarden

    GodsGarden Active Member

    432
    Feb 6, 2015
    Colorado
    Sorry you haven't gotten any replies. Pictures I know help with this stuff. I'm not great with this type of stuff but if your wanting more 'milky' kids then go that way. One thing to consider is if the second buckling is younger he might have a harder time breeding the doe. Many times that doesn't matter, lol. You can also look at the bad qualities of each side and pick the pair that don't share those same bad qualities.
     

  3. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    I agree Pictures say alot. The bloodlines are there..but the physical comparison with pictures is the last part of the puzzle for me. I like to compare the doe & buck..to visually see what improvement would work.
     
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  4. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Me too. :nod::up:

    You can have excellent bloodlines.
    But that doesn't mean the goat matches them. ;)
     
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  5. Goatzrule

    Goatzrule Well-Known Member

    Feb 7, 2013
    New England
    You cant milk papers
     
  6. groovyoldlady

    groovyoldlady Goat Crazy!

    Jul 21, 2011
    Central Maine
    I get cross-eyed looking at pedigrees. Pictures of the doe and bucks from the front, the side and the rear will help alot!
     
  7. daisymay

    daisymay Well-Known Member

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    Feb 13, 2017
    oregon
    Dee photo from previous farm under a year old for conformation photo.she doesn’t toe out.
     

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  8. daisymay

    daisymay Well-Known Member

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    Feb 13, 2017
    oregon
    My buckling and his 9 yr old dam
     

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  9. daisymay

    daisymay Well-Known Member

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    Feb 13, 2017
    oregon
    Photos off of oak apple farm site. New buckling
     

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  10. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    So what is the question? Who to breed to who?
     
  11. daisymay

    daisymay Well-Known Member

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    Feb 13, 2017
    oregon
    Yes which young guy to breed the doeto.
     
  12. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    I would stick with your buckling.
     
  13. daisymay

    daisymay Well-Known Member

    432
    Feb 13, 2017
    oregon
    the blue eyed guy or the brown guy?
     
  14. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Blue I think? Not the new buckling!